<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"><style></style></head><body lang=EN-US link="#000000" vlink="#000000"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'>As I said:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'>“Once the action is in the piano you’ll need to adjust the side-to-side damper spacing and damper lift. This may also not be as bad in the doing as it is in the thinking about. It depends on how close the replacement damper flanges are to the originals.”<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'>Damper timing—both pedal lift and spoons—may or may not be a Really Big Deal depending on how close the new flanges are to the originals. Same with side-to-side spacing. I’ve had them fall into place and I’ve sweated over them. Leave some flexibility in the pricing.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'>Del<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#632423'>Delwin D Fandrich</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#632423'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#632423'>Piano Design & Fabrication</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#632423'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#632423'>6939 Foothill Court SW, </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#632423'>Olympia, Washington 98512 USA<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#632423'>Phone  360.515.0119 — Cell 360.388.6525</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#632423'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#632423'><a href="mailto:del@fandrichpiano.com"><u><span style='color:blue'>del@fandrichpiano.com </span></u></a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#632423'>— </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#632423'><a href="mailto:ddfandrich@gmail.com"><u><span style='color:blue'>ddfandrich@gmail.com</span></u></a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>tnrwim@aol.com<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 02, 2012 8:38 AM<br><b>To:</b> pianotech@ptg.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [pianotech] Plastic Damper flanges<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 2.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I’ve probably forgotten a few details—it’s been close to thirty years since I’ve done one—but once you’re started it should go along fairly smoothly.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>ddf</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Don't forget that the spoons need to be regulated, too. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>With all that needs to be done, as Del, and I have said, make sure the customer is willing to pay for this.  <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Wim<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Delwin D Fandrich <<a href="mailto:del@fandrichpiano.com"><span style='color:windowtext'>del@fandrichpiano.com</span></a>><br>To: pianotech <<a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org"><span style='color:windowtext'>pianotech@ptg.org</span></a>><br>Sent: Mon, Jan 2, 2012 6:19 am<br>Subject: Re: [pianotech] Plastic Damper flanges<o:p></o:p></span></p><div id="AOLMsgPart_1_17c6ef3e-dd35-4288-8202-f8392961c083"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>You’ll not find any specifications for this kind of work. You do what you can with what you can find. And you’ll have a talk with your client about the economic feasibility of going ahead with the repair. The piano may not be worth the effort.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Having said that—and assuming the client wants to spend the money—the repair procedure is fairly straight forward. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:navy'>n</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:navy'> </span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:navy'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>If you’re lucky you might find two pieces of the same flange to measure but why bother? Your choices for replacement flanges are rather limited; buy the one with the spring length that best fits.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:navy'>n</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:navy'> </span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:navy'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Remove the rest of the flanges from the damper levers. Do not install the new flanges yet.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:navy'>n</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:navy'> </span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:navy'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Sort the levers into piles by damper type; mono-chords to the left, bi-chords next, then tri-chords (if there are any) and, finally the pads.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:navy'>n</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:navy'> </span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:navy'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Now start putting them in order using the damper type as an initial guide. Lay them out side-by-side with a board under the wood levers (so they will lie as flat as you can get them) and sort by the amount of bend in the damper wires. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:navy'>n</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:navy'> </span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:navy'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>The bends will be fairly progressive and obvious to the discerning eye. You probably won’t get them perfect but you should be able to get them fairly close to the right order just by looking. You want the bends to look progressive. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:navy'>n</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:navy'> </span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:navy'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Once they are sorted you can install the new flanges and screw them to the rail. Before installing the action stand back and take a last look at the back of the action; you may want to swap around a few for a better side-to-side fit.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Thinking about this job is more intimidating than actually doing it. Once the action is in the piano you’ll need to adjust the side-to-side damper spacing and damper lift. This may also not be as bad in the doing as it is in the thinking about. It depends on how close the replacement damper flanges are to the originals.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I’ve probably forgotten a few details—it’s been close to thirty years since I’ve done one—but once you’re started it should go along fairly smoothly.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>ddf</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Delwin D Fandrich<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Piano Design & Fabrication<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>6939 Foothill Court SW, Olympia, Washington 98512 USA<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Phone  360.515.0119 — Cell  360.388.6525<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="mailto:del@fandrichpiano.com"><u><span style='color:blue'>del@fandrichpiano.com </span></u></a>— <a href="mailto:ddfandrich@gmail.com"><u><span style='color:blue'>ddfandrich@gmail.com</span></u></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org"><u><span style='color:blue'>pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</span></u></a> [<a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org?"><u><span style='color:blue'>mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</span></u></a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Rob McCall<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 02, 2012 2:29 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org"><u><span style='color:blue'>pianotech@ptg.org</span></u></a><br><b>Subject:</b> [pianotech] Plastic Damper flanges<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Does anyone have any specs for this?  Or does it look like the standard spinet flange from Schaff, etc. would work?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Also, if anyone has any hints or tips as to how best to sort the pile of damper levers from the mayhem it's in, into the correct order it needs to be in, I'd appreciate it...  and no, they aren't numbered...  :-/<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Regards,</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Rob McCall</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>McCall Piano Service, LLC<br><a href="http://www.mccallpiano.com/" target="_blank"><u><span style='color:blue'>www.mccallpiano.com</span></u></a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Murrieta, CA</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>951-698-1875</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>