Why go that far if what you want is an external, PTG dissociated mailing list?<div><br></div><div>John Delacour set up <a href="mailto:pianotech@googlegroups.com">pianotech@googlegroups.com</a> months ago, which operates almost identically to the old pianotech list as far as membership: just send email to <a href="mailto:pianotech%2Bsubscribe@googlegroups.com">pianotech+subscribe@googlegroups.com</a> to subscribe. </div> <div><br></div><div>Anyone can join, and there is no moderation. Attachments "just work." Discussions are automatically archived without anyone managing a server. It has an optional web-interface that is modeled on Gmail. Etc., etc.</div> <div><br></div><div>But the group is basically silent. (And I see, Duaine, that you are already a member.)</div><div><br></div><div>I suspect this is because people don't want to "commit" until the PTG direction is settled. So maybe the issue is not that there's no place for <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a> refugees to go, it's that people don't *want* to leave unless they're booted out.</div> <div><br></div><div>So my guess is that further splintering will not be effective, we'll just have to struggle through this transition.</div><div><br></div><div>Jim</div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"> On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Duaine Hechler <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dahechler@att.net">dahechler@att.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Olde list solution - of course - with your support (and primarily, if you would allow me to start it) ........<br> <br> Ultimately, the list program is "mailman", as some of you are aware".<br> <br> Now I have access to "mailman" and could get it setup (with some of the current maintainers help) and so "we" just create a non-associated carbon copy with myself and anyone else that wants to help, be "our own" entity.<br> <br> That would solve all the concerns - politically, non-member crap, etc.<br> <br> In point of fact, I have it installed on my system right now, I just looked at it yet.<br> <br> Just thinking out loud ..............<br> <br> Duaine<br> <br> -- <br> Duaine Hechler<br> Piano, Player Piano, Pump Organ<br> Tuning, Servicing& Rebuilding<br> Reed Organ Society Member<br> Florissant, MO 63034<br> <a href="tel:%28314%29%20838-5587" value="+13148385587" target="_blank">(314) 838-5587</a><br> <a href="mailto:dahechler@att.net" target="_blank">dahechler@att.net</a><br> <a href="http://www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com" target="_blank">www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com</a><br><font color="#888888"> --<br> Home& Business user of Linux - 11 years<br> <br> </font></blockquote></div><br></div>