<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" http-equiv=Content-Type> <META name=GENERATOR content="MSHTML 8.00.6001.19019"> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=2 face=Arial>err, no!</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT></STRONG> </DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=2 face=Arial>You're confusing guests with contributors. It's the contributors who built up the list, by open invitation. It has nothing to do with membership and for my part I'm certainly not prepared to pay dues to be a contributor.  It's the lurkers who are the guests. Duaine may be persona non grata, but he is still a contributor and as such his voice still counts; you have to admit that we have all learned from him even though that may only be not to employ him as an aural tuner.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT></STRONG> </DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Just my contribution.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT></STRONG> </DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=2 face=Arial>AF</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=l-bartlett@sbcglobal.net href="mailto:l-bartlett@sbcglobal.net">Leslie Bartlett</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 02, 2012 7:41 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [pianotech] unsubscribe</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>PTG is a club. It's members- those who have rights to influence ongoing<BR>decisions, pay hefty dues to be part of the club. They have ongoing<BR>discussions and squabbles about the rules of the club. But it's their club.<BR>They built up this club with years of hard work and dedication in order to<BR>aid each other with their desire to be more capable technicians. <BR><BR>Those who are not members of the PTG, yet use the PTG list are guests, and<BR>it is expected that guests would behave as such. They have no rights, only<BR>privileges.  If they want rights, then they should join the club.<BR><BR>If they want to squabble about the rules, then they should pay the "higher<BR>dues" and become RPT's.  That's how the club was set up, and it is the<BR>members, not the guests, who only have reason to be discussing the everyday<BR>irritations of the group. "Right" is what has been decided over the years by<BR>the RPT's.  It simply is the way it is. If guests continually demand<BR>"rights", it seems it would be a simple thing to block anyone who has not<BR>paid to be a member, and it would seem quite reasonable to do so, as<BR>knowledge shared here is free to all, including those who compete with us<BR>while complaining, costing us business by building their knowledge base at<BR>the expense of the PTG.<BR><BR><BR>I did my share of being an idiot for a year or so, as a guest.........  The<BR>rock isn't going to bend, so one either understands and follows the rules,<BR>or they will eventually be shunned from sheer irritation of those who have<BR>learned the rules......<BR>Les Bartlett<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>