<html> <body> At 09:17 PM 2/7/2012, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">In perspective.   When I was on the Board about 30 years ago, dues were due Jan 1st, but dues notices were not sent out until Jan 31. Dues were delinquent March 31. RVP's were notified in April that if a member didn't pay by May 31, he/she would be dropped. In other words, a member would be able to receive full benefits, including being able to attend PTG sponsored seminars, and get the Journal for 5 months before membership would be dropped. When the Board first brought up the idea that we should send out dues notices before Jan 31, one Board member actually said. "members will think the PTG is begging for money".   The Board, and Council, finally got their act together when we hired a management company to run our organization. Dues notices are now sent out at the beginning of November, with a payment due date of Jan 1st. The delinquent notices are sent out Jan. 31. By that time, dues are already 30 over due.  When you car insurance bill has not been paid 1 week AFTER THE DUE DATE, you get a delinquency notice from the insurance company. The PTG is sending out a delinquency notice ONE MONTH after the due. date. How many days after the due date should the HO wait until the delinquent notice is sent out? One day, one week, a month?   Bottom line. Not only are our dues collection process much more efficient, members have 3 months to get their dues paid before a delinquent notice is sent. If you don't want the hassle of dealing with a slow program, much less getting a delinquency notice in the mail, pay your dues early. Otherwise, shut the hell up.   Wim     From: David Love <davidlovepianos@comcast.net> To: pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:34 pm Subject: Re: [pianotech] More Dues Paying Fiasco (Sigh.......) Do we really think that a couple of letters getting sent out unnecessarily is breaking the bank? Time for a reality check. Is business that slow or are people's lives that empty that this topic continues in every possible ridiculous iteration. People should get a life and move on. Really. Strip away the inessential. Life is too short as it is. David Love <a href="http://www.davidlovepianos.com/">www.davidlovepianos.com</a> (sent from bb) <hr> From: Jurgen Goering <<a href="mailto:pianoforte@pianofortesupply.com"> pianoforte@pianofortesupply.com</a>> Sender: <a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org"> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 17:16:07 -0800 To: pianotech<<a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a> > ReplyTo: <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a> Subject: [pianotech] More Dues Paying Fiasco (Sigh.......) <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">The renewal was late enough that the system was set in motion to send out the letter. </blockquote>Apparently little pre-mature, now, can we agree? <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Moreover, who cares. A courtesy letter was sent out. His payment crossed. Common practice for any number of companies. What a waste of time and energy this entire discussion is. David Love </blockquote> <pre>And what about a  waste of dues, yours, mine and everyone else's, going into letterhead, envelopes, printing,  stuffing envelopes, and stamps to send people reminder notices for payment that has already been recieved by head office???</pre> Jurgen Goering </blockquote></body> </html>