<HTML style="FONT-FAMILY: MS Sans Serif; FONT-SIZE: x-small"><HEAD> <META name=GENERATOR content="MSHTML 8.00.6001.19170"></HEAD> <BODY style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"> <DIV> <DIV>John,</DIV> <DIV>My olde mentor, used to say, (when working with stringing, etc.): I you aren't bleeding, you aren't doing it right!<G></DIV> <DIV>You have a point re. the scratches on the plate. However, I was talking about cutting "at" the pin. That sometimes entails cutting at the agraffe and then grabbing the wire in vise grips and pulling it up to cut "at" the pin. It's a big pain in the tush, but I've done it on some of these really hardcase pianos.<G></DIV> <DIV>Regards,</DIV> <DIV>Joe</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV></DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=jrpiano@eastlink.ca href="mailto:jrpiano@eastlink.ca">John Ross</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To: </B><A title=joegarrett@earthlink.net href="mailto:joegarrett@earthlink.net">joegarrett@earthlink.net</A></DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 2/12/2012 10:15:15 PM </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [pianotech] open letter to CA users..???</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT size=2>Unless you cut very close to the pin, sometimes the end will catch and unwind, and could cause scratches in the plate. <DIV>I mentioned the becket breaker, as some people might want to purchase one to have, in case they are ever faced with the problem.</DIV> <DIV>Cutting the wire works.</DIV> <DIV>I have also been stabbed with the unruly ends, so sometimes there was a showing of blood.</DIV> <DIV>Just unlucky I guess.</DIV> <DIV>John Ross,</DIV> <DIV>Windsor, Nova Scotia.<BR> <DIV> <DIV>On 13-02-2012, at 1:50 AM, Joseph Garrett wrote:</DIV><BR class=Apple-interchange-newline> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> <META name=GENERATOR content="MSHTML 8.00.6001.19170"> <DIV style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"> <DIV> <DIV>Why bother? The whole idea is to get rid of the tuning pins and the wire, is it not. Who cares if the wire is locked into/onto the tuning pins? The whole mess will wind up in the circular file anyway. Right?</DIV> <DIV>Joe</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV></DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=jrpiano@eastlink.ca href="mailto:jrpiano@eastlink.ca">John Ross</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To: </B><A title=joegarrett@earthlink.net href="mailto:joegarrett@earthlink.net">joegarrett@earthlink.net</A>;<A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A></DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 2/12/2012 9:47:46 PM </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [pianotech] open letter to CA users..???</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT size=2>I would try a becket breaker. <DIV>John Ross</DIV> <DIV>Windsor, Nova Scotia</DIV> <DIV><BR> <DIV> <DIV>On 13-02-2012, at 1:21 AM, Joseph Garrett wrote:</DIV><BR class=Apple-interchange-newline> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> <DIV>Rob said: <BR>"I'm repinning a grand with oversized pins and upon attempting to remove<BR>the becket from the old pins to take the old pins out, I've discovered the<BR>major pain in the bu** that can materialize from careless CA work. <BR><BR>Apparently, it was too difficult to direct the CA at the bottom of the<BR>tuning pin, and instead an easier route was chosen to just pour the CA over<BR>the coil and let it run down into the hole. Since I'm now repinning, the CA<BR>didn't work all that well on pin tightness, but it was most excellent at<BR>insuring the becket was unable to leave it's little home in the tuning pin.<BR>;-)"<BR><BR>Regards,<BR><BR>Rob,<BR>I'd just suggest you get busy with a big honkin' set of diagonal cutters.<BR>Snip the wires and then back the pins out with either a reversable drill or<BR>air drill. No biggy, imo. Why do you need to take the wire out of the<BR>becket hole? In reality, you're just going to toss those old pins anyway.<BR>So, what's the big deal?<G><BR>It's obvious that someone really didn't understand how one is supposed to<BR>apply CA. I suspect it was the wrong vicosity, as well.<BR>That's my take on it.<G><BR>Joe <BR><BR><BR>Joe Garrett, R.P.T.<BR>Captain of the Tool Police<BR>Squares R I<BR><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>