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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'>I&#8217;ve never tried weighting the action as Dean did. I have drilled wippen bodies and inserted lead wire to add about the same amount of mass. Takes a lot longer and probably isn&#8217;t practical unless you have the wippens off for some other reason (as I did). The same can be done&#8212;sometimes&#8212;with the catcher. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'>I have used split leads on damper wires where they seem to work indefinitely without causing problems.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'>ddf<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#632423'>Delwin D Fandrich</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#632423'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#632423'>Piano Design &amp; Fabrication</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#632423'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#632423'>6939 Foothill Court SW, </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#632423'>Olympia, Washington 98512 USA<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#632423'>Phone&nbsp; 360.515.0119 &#8212; Cell&nbsp; 360.388.6525</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#632423'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#632423'><a href="mailto:del@fandrichpiano.com"><span style='color:blue'>del@fandrichpiano.com </span></a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#632423'>&#8212; </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#632423'><a href="mailto:ddfandrich@gmail.com"><span style='color:blue'>ddfandrich@gmail.com</span></a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Allen Fisher<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, February 25, 2012 6:01 AM<br><b>To:</b> PTG<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [pianotech] adding weights<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I would put the split shots the other way around so with a hard blow they would be less likely to loosen. The abrupt stop would be towards the closed side of the split shot.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center id=stopSpelling></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From: <a href="mailto:deanmay@pianorebuilders.com">deanmay@pianorebuilders.com</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a><br>Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 19:10:50 -0500<br>Subject: [pianotech] adding weights<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Subject was 30 year old Wurly console. Complaint was intermittent sluggish keys. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mar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