<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><DIV>Thanks Del.  That's much clearer to me now.</DIV> <DIV>Cheers,</DIV> <DIV>Bert<BR><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 2/28/12, Delwin D Fandrich <I><del@fandrichpiano.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"> <DIV id=yiv1302153803> <DIV> <DIV class=yiv1302153803WordSection1> <P class=yiv1302153803MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">No, it was not a cut and paste error. I went on to say “In both cases, of course, these [meaning those having lower tensions] strings will be comparatively shorter than their high-tensioned counterparts.”</SPAN></DIV> <P class=yiv1302153803MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </SPAN></DIV> <P class=yiv1302153803MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">That is, the lower-tensioned strings will both be shorter than their higher-tensioned counterparts. The long, thin high-tension string will be longer than the long, thin low-tension string and the short, thick high-tension string will be longer than the short, thick low-tension string. </SPAN></DIV> <P class=yiv1302153803MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </SPAN></DIV> <P class=yiv1302153803MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Consider note A-49. </SPAN></DIV> <P class=yiv1302153803MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">(Example #1) If the speaking length is 17.7” and the wire has a diameter of 0.036” the tension will be 181 lbf. We’ll call this a relatively long, thin high-tension string. </SPAN></DIV> <P class=yiv1302153803MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">(Example #2) Make the speaking length 16.4” long and give the wire a diameter of 0.039” the tension will stay the same, 181 lbf, but we will now have a short, thick high-tension string. </SPAN></DIV> <P class=yiv1302153803MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">(Example #3) If the speaking length is 16.4” and the wire diameter is 0.036” the tension will be 155 lbf and it would be considered a long, thin low-tension string. </SPAN></DIV> <P class=yiv1302153803MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">(Example #4) If the speaking length is made 15.1” and the wire diameter is 0.039” the tension will still be 155 lbf and we will have a short, thick low-tension scaling. </SPAN></DIV> <P class=yiv1302153803MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Examples #3 and #4 are shorter than Examples #1 and #2 respectively.</SPAN></DIV> <P class=yiv1302153803MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </SPAN></DIV> <P class=yiv1302153803MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">My point being that understanding the tone qualities of the varying scale types is not as simple as labeling them as “high-tension” scales or “low-tension” scales. You have long and short, thick and thin and many gradations in between to consider. 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