<font color='black' size='2' face='Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'><br> <div style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 3px">Was the tone different after retuning? </BLOCKQUOTE></div> <div>Paul, and others.</div> <div> </div> <div>No, the tone was not different. That is, the tone isn't very good to begin with, considering it needs new hammers. I did not charge them for a service call because it's the first time I tuned for this church, and I gave them a proposal for new h/s/f. I did send the choir director the pictures and an explanation of what happened. At this point I am not planning to replace the v-bar. </div> <div> </div> <div>Joe, I have never heard of a model C Baldwin grand either. It's about the same size and scaling as a Baldwin L. Del, or anyone, have you heard of a C? Was it a limited production model?</div> <div> </div> <div>Wim<br> <br> </div> <div style="CLEAR: both"> <div> </div> </div> <br> <br> <div style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original Message-----<br> From: Paul T Williams <pwilliams4@unlnotes.unl.edu><br> To: pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org><br> Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 5:14 am<br> Subject: Re: [pianotech] flat v-bar<br> <br> <div id=AOLMsgPart_1_6decb0c9-eb18-4aeb-9e7f-a3f59e5afa12><FONT size=2 face=sans-serif>That's a new one on me, Wim.  Have you talked them into a proper repair?  Was the tone different after retuning? could it just be left alone or is the angle to the capo now too shallow?</FONT> <br> <br> <FONT size=2 face=sans-serif>Paul</FONT> <br> <br> <br> <br> <TABLE width="100%"> <TBODY> <TR vAlign=top> <TD><FONT color=#5f5f5f size=1 face=sans-serif>From:</FONT> <TD><FONT size=1 face=sans-serif><A href="mailto:tnrwim@aol.com">tnrwim@aol.com</A></FONT> <TR vAlign=top> <TD><FONT color=#5f5f5f size=1 face=sans-serif>To:</FONT> <TD><FONT size=1 face=sans-serif><A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A></FONT> <TR vAlign=top> <TD><FONT color=#5f5f5f size=1 face=sans-serif>Date:</FONT> <TD><FONT size=1 face=sans-serif>03/05/2012 09:08 AM</FONT> <TR vAlign=top> <TD><FONT color=#5f5f5f size=1 face=sans-serif>Subject:</FONT> <TD><FONT size=1 face=sans-serif>[pianotech] flat v-bar</FONT></TR></TBODY></TABLE><br> <HR noShade> <br> <br> <br> <FONT size=2 face=Arial>Yesterday I tuned a Model C Baldwin grand at a church for the first time. Nice piano, except it needs new hammers. Despite that, I thought I did a good job. This morning I got a call from the piano player saying that from d6 on up the piano is way out of tune. Things like that have happened in the past, and it usually a note here or there that might be slightly off, so I wasn't too concerned. But I happen to be in the neighborhood, so I stopped by the church. </FONT><br> <FONT size=2 face=Arial> </FONT> <br> <FONT size=2 face=Arial>From D6 - G6 it sounded like someone had detuned the piano. C#6 and G#6 were almost perfectly in tune, but the ones in between were like a fifth or so off. I looked at the plate, and the hitch pins, but nothing was wrong. When I started tuning the strings, the pins felt very tight. I stopped after 3 notes, and went to the office and asked if anyone had access to the sanctuary, and I was assured that no one was in there the night before. I went back and continue tuning the rest of the notes that were way off. Then went back and listened to D6 again, and I had to bring it up some more. It took me about 15 minutes to retune that section.  </FONT> <br> <FONT size=2 face=Arial> </FONT> <br> <FONT size=2 face=Arial>The sanctuary was a little dark, so I took out my flashlight, and took another close look. Then I saw it. The V bar had collapsed. Literally. See the attached picture. I have never seen anything like this in my life. Anyone?</FONT> <br> <FONT size=2 face=Arial> </FONT> <br> <FONT size=2 face=Arial>Wim Blees RPT</FONT> <br> <FONT size=2 face=Arial>Hawaii [attachment "V_bar_2.JPG" deleted by Paul T Williams/Music/UNL/UNEBR] </FONT><br> <br> </div> </div> </font>