<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:ns0="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"> <head> <meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)"> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PostalCode"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="State"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="City"/>  <style>  </style>  </head> <body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=blue> <div class=Section1> Dittos from this corner as well. I tuned a fairly new Steinway upr model K, maybe 10 years old. Customer said it was a Hamburg Steinway, but who knows. Any rate, they love the piano, I suspect mostly because it is a Hamburg Steinway. I hated it. Though it sounded pretty nice, it played like a Mack truck. When depressing the key, it was starkly obvious when the damper started lifting, the spring tension was huge. I asked if they were happy with the touch and they said yes, so I made no suggestions to improve it. Also on that piano, the key bushing slop was awful. Could have been the previous tech overeasing, or the owner’s son does play a lot they say, but it seemed like a very unusual amount of wear to me. Beautiful piano, nice tone, awful to play. I would have loved easing those damper springs just to see what a difference it would make, but you know the saying, no good deed will go unpunished. Back away slowly…<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div> Dean<o:p></o:p> Dean W May                        (812) 235-5272 voice and text<o:p></o:p> PianoRebuilders.com           (888) DEAN-MAY         <o:p></o:p> <ST1:PLACE u1:st="on"><ST1:PLACE u2:st="on"><U2:CITY u1:st="on"><ns0:City w:insAuthor="Dean May" w:insDate="2012-03-20T21:36:00Z" w:endInsAuthor="Dean May" w:endInsDate="2012-03-20T21:36:00Z"><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Terre Haute</st1:City></st1:place></ns0:City></U2:CITY> <ns0:State w:insAuthor="Dean May" w:insDate="2012-03-20T21:36:00Z" w:endInsAuthor="Dean May" w:endInsDate="2012-03-20T21:36:00Z"><U2:STATE u1:st="on"><st1:State w:st="on">IN</U2:STATE></st1:State></ns0:State> <ns0:PostalCode w:insAuthor="Dean May" w:insDate="2012-03-20T21:36:00Z" w:endInsAuthor="Dean May" w:endInsDate="2012-03-20T21:36:00Z"><U2:POSTALCODE u1:st="on"><st1:PostalCode w:st="on">47802</st1:PostalCode>           Give us a LIKE on Facebook! <a href="https://www.facebook.com/pages/PianoRebuilderscom/137780082943148">Go to PianoRebuilders.com</a></U2:POSTALCODE></ns0:PostalCode><o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center tabindex=-1> </div> From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Dale Erwin Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 6:17 PM To: pianotech@ptg.org Subject: Re: [pianotech] New piano key?<o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> Dittos to Pauls comments.  We did a mass installation at a school. We weakened all the damper springs in Kawai, Yamaha and the new Pramberger uprights.  It makes a massive difference in touch and the dampers still work just fine.  Its obvious that no attempt was made in any of these to regulate spring tension.  Probably too expensive<o:p></o:p> <div> Dale Erwin RPT- Mason & Hamlin/Steinway/U.S pianos Pre-hung Ronsen hammer sets/Abel parts <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Sitka</st1:place></st1:City> Soundboards & Supplies WWW.Erwinspiano.com 209-577-8397 <tt> </tt> <tt>  </tt><o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> <div> -----Original Message----- From: Paul McCloud <pmc033@earthlink.net> To: pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Tue, Mar 20, 2012 8:58 am Subject: Re: [pianotech] New piano key?<o:p></o:p> <div id="AOLMsgPart_0_d8151e03-cd95-47ae-9257-39d15e85cbf8"><pre style='background:white'><tt>Hi, Seles:<o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>I'm not sure about this model, as I haven't seen it, but if I were to guess, <o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>it's the damper springs.  It's an upright piano, right?  Yamaha pianos have the <o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>spring-and-loop arrangement on the hammer butts, so it's not likely to have <o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>overly strong springs there.  Unless there's too much friction in the key (not <o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>likely, or it would be sluggish).  So, what's left?  I've found on many pianos <o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>that the damper springs are too strong.  Strong damper springs are also likely <o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>to cause hammer bobbling on a light blow.  If that's a tendency, more than <o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>likely it's the spring tension.  You can use a Hart spring tool to bend them <o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>backwards and weaken those springs a bit.<o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>Good luck.<o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>Paul McCloud<o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><tt>San Diego</tt></st1:place></st1:City><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><o:p> </o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>----- Original Message -----<o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>From: "Seles" <<a href="mailto:seles_tinus@yahoo.com">seles_tinus@yahoo.com</a>><o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>To: <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a><o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>Cc: <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a><o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 8:11:37 AM<o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>Subject: [pianotech] New piano key?<o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><o:p> </o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>Hi all, i just bought new yamaha piano Ju 109, but i feel the key a little bit " <o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>hard" when press the key, <o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>It's that normal for a new piano? Any solution to make a liitle bit light the <o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>key?<o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>Thank<o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><o:p> </o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>Seles<o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>Regards<o:p></o:p></tt></pre></div> </div> </div> </body> </html>