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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Actually my approach is simpler. If it’s a family heirloom and has sentimental value to them and they want to pass it down through the generations then it might be worth doing. Otherwise, it probably isn’t. While the piano given the right treatment would, I’m sure, have some good musical quality, I would have a hard time arguing for doing the job only with the promise of musical quality. It’s the sad reality. Of course if they wanted to give it to me to play with I’d probably get to it eventually. Right behind the Knabes and Chickerings that are sitting in the shop waiting to be done as well. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>My typo in the subject line, btw, it should have been “Christman”.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>David Love<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>www.davidlovepianos.com<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dale Erwin<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 23, 2012 7:29 AM<br><b>To:</b> pianotech@ptg.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [pianotech] Chrisman Grand<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'>I think value needs to be ascribed to this kind of project in a new way. Musical.<br> In our shop, even M Steinways aren't money makers as a spec project anymore. If I get one for free it still a 30 K rebuild when all is replaced and refinished. Whats it worth? Tried selling one lately?<br> <br> At some point nothing is worth rebuilding if you can buy a 6 ft Wendel & Lung etc. from China for 10 K. So the sales pitch needs to be based on the outcome, inherent original quality and the final tonal result of a custom rebuilt made and rebuilt in America(n) piano.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:mediumblue'>Dale Erwin RPT-</span></b><b><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:black'><br></span></b><b><i><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>Mason & Hamlin/Steinway/U.S pianos<br></span></i></b><b><i><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:mediumblue'>Pre-hung Ronsen hammer sets/Abel parts</span></i></b><b><i><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'><br></span></i></b><b><i><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:darkgreen'>Sitka Soundboards & Supplies<br></span></i></b><b><i><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>WWW.Erwinspiano.com</span></i></b><b><i><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:darkgreen'><br></span></i></b><b><i><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:crimson'>209-577-8397</span></i></b><b><i><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:darkgreen'><br></span></i></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:darkgreen'><br><tt> </tt></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:navy'><br><tt> </tt></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>From: David Love <davidlovepianos@comcast.net><br>To: pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org><br>Sent: Mon, Apr 23, 2012 7:17 am<br>Subject: Re: [pianotech] Chrisman Grand<o:p></o:p></span></p><div id="AOLMsgPart_0_3c0ac50f-d1de-49cb-be61-19c3f43c4bbe"><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>Yes it is interesting how things get abandoned and lost probably for the<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>sake of manufacturing expediency. These types of bridges are clearly more<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>trouble to make but probably with some real benefit. Here's a couple final<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>pictures. The treble backscale is quite long without the tuned rear duplex<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>aliquots and you can better see the angle in the capo section. I'd probably<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>reduce the felt width and density behind the counterbearing bars to reduce<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>drag there. Anyway, a potential project in the making. We'll see what<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>happens. A piano where the value doesn't really justify the cost of redoing<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>it but it may have the inherent design and structure to be quite a nice<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>small piano (good set of ivory on it too!). A family heirloom so there's a<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>chance.<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>David Love<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><a href="http://www.davidlovepianos.com" target="_blank">www.davidlovepianos.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>From: <a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a> [<a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org?">mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a>] On Behalf<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>Of Ron Nossaman<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 3:48 AM<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>To: <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>Subject: Re: [pianotech] Chrisman Grand<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>On 4/22/2012 11:27 PM, David Love wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>> Here's a couple more pictures showing that the tenor aggraffe line has<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>> already been slightly offset<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>Very good! No tuned low angle duplex either. Can't tell how steep the <o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>angle is or how much pressure and drag the big felt acreage provides.<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>>and a better picture of the entire length of<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>> the backscale. Even some of those European loops would probably help back<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>> there.<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>Surely.<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>It's terrific how much individuals have learned and implemented through <o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>the history of this industry, and sad how very little of the good stuff <o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>has survived in current production and general knowledge. But that's not <o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>just this industry either, is it.<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>Good find.<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>Ron N<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></body></html>