By the way, that link is from a bit more than a month ago:<br><a href="http://www.economist.com/node/21542380">http://www.economist.com/node/21542380</a><br> As a community orchestra concertmaster I play a gorgeous violin I made a few years back. I would sell it for 1% of the price of a Strad if someone made an offer, though. I was inspired in my design by piano soundboard knowledge shared by Darrell Fandrich at a chapter meeting.<br>
--John Ashcraft<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 1:52 PM, David Love <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:davidlovepianos@comcast.net" target="_blank">davidlovepianos@comcast.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Check out the article in the Economist about a month or two ago comparing the sound of various vintage violins against new ones. A blind listening experiment. I won't ruin it by telling you which ones came out ahead.<br>
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David Love<br>
<a href="http://www.davidlovepianos.com" target="_blank">www.davidlovepianos.com</a><br>
(sent from bb)<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Paul Williams <<a href="mailto:pwilliams4@unl.edu">pwilliams4@unl.edu</a>><br>
Sender: <a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a><br>
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 20:29:31<br>
To: <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a><<a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a>><br>
Reply-To: <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Gen-u-whine Steinway parts<br>
<br>
As beautiful as a Strad sounds, the strings made in the day are not<br>
available anymore..or are they? Cat gut just can't be around. Certainly,<br>
a bridge must have been replace in 300 years, but Mr Strad didn't do it,<br>
nor could have. A tuning nut, etc, whatever: When is the line drawn?<br>
<br>
I once was an actual employee for a piano store and was told to shut my<br>
mouth when we held those huge warehouse sales and all I was to do was tune<br>
and look busy! Believe me, that only lasted a few months! I couldn't<br>
stand hearing the salesman push "oh, this piano is all original and on and<br>
on (looking at a 1930's Stark or something they were trying to push off<br>
for $3,500!!!) Ugh! "But look here at this beautiful new (%* grand you<br>
can get for the same price! No problems with it, one free tuning, and<br>
you're good to go for years!<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<br>
<br>
On 5/1/12 2:57 PM, "Don Hubbs" <<a href="mailto:donhubbs@mwt.net">donhubbs@mwt.net</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
>You might try comparing yourselves with the craftsmen who set up other<br>
>fine<br>
>stringed instruments. There are better and lesser makes of violins, etc.,<br>
>but no professional or even good amateur would play one right out of the<br>
>box. They are often modified with better strings, bridge adjustments,<br>
>fingerboard adjustments, etc., without which they would often be mediocre<br>
>at<br>
>best.<br>
><br>
>If you are regularly called on to finesse concert instruments, let your<br>
>customer know that, too.<br>
><br>
>Salesmen are salesmen. They can sell a way too bright piano as "voiced for<br>
>jazz", while keeping a straight face. You have to sell your craft as the<br>
>finesse that makes all the difference.<br>
><br>
>Don Hubbs<br>
><br>
>-----Original Message-----<br>
>From: Encore Pianos [mailto:<a href="mailto:encorepianos@metrocast.net">encorepianos@metrocast.net</a>]<br>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 11:56 AM<br>
>To: <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a><br>
>Subject: Re: [pianotech] Gen-u-whine Steinway parts<br>
><br>
>Well put, Jim. And Steinway plays on that insecurity to the hilt.<br>
><br>
>Will<br>
><br>
>-----Original Message-----<br>
>From: <a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a>] On<br>
>Behalf<br>
>Of <a href="mailto:jim@grandpianosolutions.com">jim@grandpianosolutions.com</a><br>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 10:41 AM<br>
>To: pianotech<br>
>Subject: [pianotech] Gen-u-whine Steinway parts<br>
><br>
>Dale I feel your pain.<br>
><br>
>However, as a point of constructive discussion, regarding human brains in<br>
>general regarding this problem, I would like to look at this problem from<br>
>a<br>
>different perspective. As a disclaimer, I'm sure you know that I share<br>
>your<br>
>passion for piano rebuilding as the committed pursuit of beautiful piano<br>
>sound. (If it weren't for the possibility of creating beautiful sound, I'd<br>
>probably just be selling life insurance or some other yuck-and-a-half.)<br>
><br>
>But...let me set up a hypothetical scenario, with me as a piano buyer<br>
>(assuming by some amazing stroke of unlikely-ness, I had some serious<br>
>bucks<br>
>to spend on a real nice piano.)<br>
><br>
>In this scenario, if had come by enough money to manage a one-time, big<br>
>bucks purchase of a piano, (as in get it right, because I wouldn't be able<br>
>to try again), I could easily see myself majorly conflicted between a<br>
>really<br>
>fine rebuild and a big name-brand piano purchase. Being brutally honest<br>
>with myself, in my mind, given the funds to purchase a big name brand, I<br>
>believe I would be conflicted in choosing a rebuild over a big name-brand<br>
>piano despite that fact that the conflict goes against my very existence<br>
>as<br>
>a life long artisan-craftsperson/musician, and despite the fact that I<br>
>know<br>
>as a technician how lousy these new brand -name pianos sound on the "lot".<br>
><br>
>Having only one shot at the "right" piano, especially when the acquisition<br>
>of that "right" piano is so central to my experience of music, I know that<br>
>the decision would have a great likelihood of creating some base line of<br>
>disappointment. And, though its irrational, and goes against everything<br>
>that I know about lousy pianos sounding on the big-name piano "lot", the<br>
>"authority" which brand names acquire would tempt me to put my trust in<br>
>the<br>
>brand as something larger and more authoritative than a single guy in his<br>
>shop...therefore more likely of avoiding disappointment.<br>
><br>
>My reasoning above is convoluted, irrational, and just plain bulls..t.<br>
>However, I also know this line of thought needs to be countered in the<br>
>working of my own mind. I pin the conflict on some sort of evolutionary<br>
>detritus, but there it is, despite the fact that it gnaws at the very<br>
>foundations of who I am as an artisan...but...still...it is there if I am<br>
>honest with myself.<br>
><br>
>I solved this problem by making my own piano. it removes the money from<br>
>the<br>
>equation, and gives me control over the outcome, as well as tools ton<br>
>overcome shortcomings.<br>
><br>
>But I cheated.<br>
><br>
>Customers don't have this control, and are utterly dependent on others for<br>
>the outcome of their quest.<br>
><br>
>Just some thoughts, as I mull over how one can actually sell a fine<br>
>rebuild,<br>
>regardless of how excellent the rebuild is, when we all are evolutionarily<br>
>still somewhere at the level of a bloody pickerel.<br>
><br>
>Jim Ialeggio<br>
><br>
>--<br>
>Jim Ialeggio<br>
><a href="mailto:jim@grandpianosolutions.com">jim@grandpianosolutions.com</a><br>
><a href="tel:%28978%29%20425-9026" value="+19784259026">(978) 425-9026</a><br>
>Shirley, MA<br>
><br>
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