<font color='navy' size='2' face='Comic Sans MS, sans-serif'><font size="2" color="navy" face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif"><br> Wow,...But Will<br>  That don't explain both the  Bs on my web site that got equal action treatments to cure the 6 leads in the bass etc inertia syndrome...and lots up the  scale. Capstan moves, Knuckles moved. Hammer weights moderate.<br>  On the 1930 I moved the action forward 1 mm or so as well. High ratios in the 6.5 ish region. Must of been rookies at work I suppose.? <br> <div style="clear:both"><font size="1" color="royalblue"><b><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, Serif"><font color="black"><font color="mediumblue" face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif">Dale Erwin... 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4:34 pm<br> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Gen-u-whine Steinway parts:OT RANT<br> <br> <div id="AOLMsgPart_1_b8aa9f52-9d87-44c0-a2e4-2567db6df613"> <style>#AOLMsgPart_1_b8aa9f52-9d87-44c0-a2e4-2567db6df613 td{color: black;} @font-face {font-family:Wingdings; panose-1:5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0;} @font-face {font-family:Wingdings; panose-1:5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0;} @font-face {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Consolas; panose-1:2 11 6 9 2 2 4 3 2 4;} #AOLMsgPart_1_b8aa9f52-9d87-44c0-a2e4-2567db6df613 p.MsoNormal,#AOLMsgPart_1_b8aa9f52-9d87-44c0-a2e4-2567db6df613 li.MsoNormal,#AOLMsgPart_1_b8aa9f52-9d87-44c0-a2e4-2567db6df613 div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";} #AOLMsgPart_1_b8aa9f52-9d87-44c0-a2e4-2567db6df613 a:link,#AOLMsgPart_1_b8aa9f52-9d87-44c0-a2e4-2567db6df613 span.MsoHyperlink {mso-style-priority:99; color:blue; 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{mso-style-type:export-only; font-size:10.0pt;} @page WordSection1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} #AOLMsgPart_1_b8aa9f52-9d87-44c0-a2e4-2567db6df613 div.WordSection1 {page:WordSection1;} </style> <div class="WordSection1"> <div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Not really, this subject could turn into <i>War and Peace</i>, couldn’t it?  </span><span style="font-family:Wingdings;color:black">J</span><span style="color:black">  But, fair enough.</span></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> .  The 20’s was likely a time when the factory had worked hard to evolve these standards and really had their shit together.  R<font color="crimson">ebuilding those pianos seemed easier to get a pleasing result in my experience, because so many things were set up well originally.  Steinways from the 1940’s on </font>are quite a different animal in these respects.</span></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> </span></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> </span></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> </span></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Will   </span></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> </span></div> <div> <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"> <div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"> <a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a> [<a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org?">mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>David Love<br> <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 02, 2012 1:14 PM<br> <b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [pianotech] Gen-u-whine Steinway parts:OT RANT</span></div> </div> </div> <div class="MsoNormal"> </div> <div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:">I have to some degree in several previous conversations including in the discussion recently published in the PTJ on tone.  It’s a loaded subject and I don’t want to delve too deeply into it at the moment.  For now, I hope it will suffice to say that I think one needs to approach design changes with caution.  BTW that goes for Steinway too.  I don’t think all the changes they’ve made over the decades have been a benefit and often (at least from my view) seem to have been done in isolation without looking at the whole picture.   If the 1920’s pianos were the design and execution pinnacle for them (as some believe) then they’ve gravitated away from that but piecemeal, not with a total concept in mind but just with certain individual changes.  They haven’t always been integrated well and haven’t always made sense.  Separating the design intention from the execution is difficult at times but we ultimately have to take them at their word.  What the produce(d) is(was) what they intended.  </span></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"> </span></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:">Cryptic enough?</span></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"> </span></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:">btw, on an unrelated topic, have you noticed how this discussion is taking place in two different places, the new list and the old list?  Many who read only one or the other are getting only half the discussion.  What a mess.  </span></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"> </span></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"> </span></div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:">David Love</span></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.davidlovepianos.com">www.davidlovepianos.com</a></span></div> </div> <div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"> </span></div> <div> <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"> <div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"> <a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]">[mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Encore Pianos<br> <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 02, 2012 9:19 AM<br> <b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [pianotech] Gen-u-whine Steinway parts:OT RANT</span></div> </div> </div> <div class="MsoNormal"> </div> <div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">“</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:">The more pianos I rebuild (bellies and actions) and the more I have been involved with design changes, the more I gravitate back to the original concept (with tweaks of course).”  </span></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"> </span></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:">Would you care to elaborate on this a bit more?</span></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"> </span></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:">Will Truitt</span><span style="color:black"></span></div> </div> </div>  </div> </font></font>