<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:ns1="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns:ns0="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"> <head> <meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)"> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="City"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="State"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PostalCode"/>  <style>  </style>  </head> <body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=blue> <div class=Section1> >> Pure evil, Dean?  That’s a bit over the top, isn’t it?  Right up there with herding people into cattle cars, taking them to concentration camps, and then gassing them! <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Yes. It is. Exactly. When the state decides it can define morality, in this case the confiscation of private property, or the rendering of it to be worthless, without due process. That is evil according to my moral standards. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> As far as concentration camps, yes FEMA has them in place, along with round up plans, along with staging mock drills involving foreign UN troops. Gas chambers are not required as Homeland Security has 450 million hollow point bullets on order. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Easier to just blow it off, go back to your lives citizens, nothing to see here. Just toe the line and throw away the beautiful natural ivory and put artificial petroleum derived plastic in its place. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div> Dean<o:p></o:p> Dean W May                        (812) 235-5272 voice and text<o:p></o:p> PianoRebuilders.com           (888) DEAN-MAY         <o:p></o:p> <ST1:PLACE u1:st="on"><ST1:PLACE u2:st="on"><U2:CITY u1:st="on"><ns0:City w:insAuthor="Dean May" w:insDate="2012-05-04T11:02:00Z" w:endInsAuthor="Dean May" w:endInsDate="2012-05-04T11:02:00Z"><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Terre Haute</st1:City></st1:place></ns0:City></U2:CITY> <ns0:State w:insAuthor="Dean May" w:insDate="2012-05-04T11:02:00Z" w:endInsAuthor="Dean May" w:endInsDate="2012-05-04T11:02:00Z"><U2:STATE u1:st="on"><st1:State w:st="on">IN</U2:STATE></st1:State></ns0:State> <ns0:PostalCode w:insAuthor="Dean May" w:insDate="2012-05-04T11:02:00Z" w:endInsAuthor="Dean May" w:endInsDate="2012-05-04T11:02:00Z"><U2:POSTALCODE u1:st="on"><st1:PostalCode w:st="on">47802</st1:PostalCode>           Give us a LIKE on Facebook! <a href="https://www.facebook.com/pages/PianoRebuilderscom/137780082943148">Go to PianoRebuilders.com</a></U2:POSTALCODE></ns0:PostalCode><o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center tabindex=-1> </div> From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Encore Pianos Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 9:56 AM To: pianotech@ptg.org Subject: Re: [pianotech] More on Calif Ivoy Law<o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> Pure evil, Dean?  That’s a bit over the top, isn’t it?  Right up there with herding people into cattle cars, taking them to concentration camps, and then gassing them!  <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> I think I’ll be a bit more muted in my characterization of the law.  Stupid, clumsy, inept, misplaced, unintended consequences; any of these might perhaps describe this law.  Even so, it is hard for me to describe it as evil, since we are speaking to the intent of the lawmakers here.  While some found Mark Dierauf’s picture of the trunkless elephant cadaver offensive, that kind of thing is what comes to mind when I think of what the lawmaker’s intent must have been.  It is a fact that many species of animals are being wantonly slaughtered illegally around the world to make piano keys and pretty necklaces, and rhinoceros horns keep Japanese men virile and so on.  This slaughter could lead to the extinction of some of these species.  And the picture tells the tale that they left everything else.  Not only has the animal been killed, most of it is simply wasted.  <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> The intent of this law was likely to do what it could to restrain demand for some of these products, so that there would not be markets for these illegally harvested animals.  If there is no market, then there is no money to be made by killing these animals, and it stops.  <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> It is probably fair to say that the law should be revisited and crafted more carefully and narrowly.  Whether or not one ever approved of harvesting elephant ivory, almost all of the ivory on the keys of the older pianos was harvested legally at that time.  While I would not buy new ivory, I see no harm in fully using this old ivory as long as it is serviceable.  <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Will Truitt<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div> <div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'> From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Dean May Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 9:05 AM To: pianotech@ptg.org Subject: Re: [pianotech] More on Calif Ivoy Law<o:p></o:p> </div> </div> <o:p> </o:p> And we are even more stupid if we willingly comply. Here is an easy workaround: Sell them the piano without the keys. Then give them the keys as a gift and install them after delivery. Explain the law and tell them if they don’t want Ivory, you’ll be happy to have a new set of keys made w/ plastic tops for $xxx extra. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> This law is pure evil since it is retroactively punitive, something expressly forbidden by the constitution. Free men are not obligated to submit to evil laws. Courageous men live as free men, even if there might be consequences. I’m thinking of some signers of a Declaration. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div> Dean<o:p></o:p> Dean W May                        (812) 235-5272 voice and text<o:p></o:p> PianoRebuilders.com           (888) DEAN-MAY         <o:p></o:p> <ns0:City w:insAuthor="Dean May" w:insDate="2012-05-04T09:02:00Z" w:endInsAuthor="Dean May" w:endInsDate="2012-05-04T09:02:00Z"><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Terre Haute</st1:City><ins cite="mailto:Dean%20May" datetime="2012-05-04T09:02"></ns0:City></ins></st1:place> <ns0:State w:insAuthor="Dean May" w:insDate="2012-05-04T09:02:00Z" w:endInsAuthor="Dean May" w:endInsDate="2012-05-04T09:02:00Z"><st1:State w:st="on">IN</st1:State><ins cite="mailto:Dean%20May" datetime="2012-05-04T09:02"></ns0:State></ins> <ns0:PostalCode w:insAuthor="Dean May" w:insDate="2012-05-04T09:02:00Z" w:endInsAuthor="Dean May" w:endInsDate="2012-05-04T09:02:00Z"><st1:PostalCode w:st="on">47802</st1:PostalCode>           Give us a LIKE on Facebook! <a href="https://www.facebook.com/pages/PianoRebuilderscom/137780082943148">Go to PianoRebuilders.com</a><ins cite="mailto:Dean%20May" datetime="2012-05-04T09:02"></ns0:PostalCode></ins><o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center> </div> From: <a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a> <a href="mailto:%5bmailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org%5d">[mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]</a> On Behalf Of <a href="mailto:tnrwim@aol.com">tnrwim@aol.com</a> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 12:18 AM To: <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a> Subject: Re: [pianotech] More on Calif Ivoy Law<o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> I agree it's stupid. But I want look 33, or at least 46.<o:p></o:p> <div> <div>  <o:p></o:p> </div> </div> <o:p> </o:p> <div> -----Original Message----- From: dbpowell1 <<a href="mailto:dbpowell1@juno.com">dbpowell1@juno.com</a>> To: pianotech <<a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a>> Sent: Thu, May 3, 2012 6:06 pm Subject: Re: [pianotech] More on Calif Ivoy Law<o:p></o:p> <div id="AOLMsgPart_1_1ca6ff24-7de3-4420-9a88-4b401e1eb42d"> <div> Another STUPID law , its just pitiful.<o:p></o:p> </div> ____________________________________________________________ <a href="http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3132/4fa3541a65a62d6bcb2st04vuc" target="_blank">53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried </a><a href="http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3132/4fa3541a65a62d6bcb2st04vuc" target="_blank">consumerproducts.com</a> <o:p></o:p> </div> </div> </div> </body> </html>