<font color='black' size='2' face='Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'> <div><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Oh, Duaine, if you only knew the thousands, maybe even millions, of professional piano tuner who read your comments and just shake their head in disbelief at your ignorance. </FONT></div> <div> </div> <div>Wim</div> <div> </div> <div><br>  </div> <div style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 3px"><PRE><TT><TT></TT></PRE></TT></BLOCKQUOTE></div> <br> <br> <div style="CLEAR: both"> <div> </div> </div> <br> <br> <div style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original Message-----<br> From: Duaine Hechler <dahechler@att.net><br> To: pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org><br> Sent: Wed, May 9, 2012 10:43 pm<br> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Old can of worms (was Re: tunelab vs verituner)<br> <br> <div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff; MARGIN: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; COLOR: #000; FONT-SIZE: 12px" id=AOLMsgPart_0_80c0e88d-caa1-4ed9-a865-7feb8356553b><PRE style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt"><TT>Now, Wim, How did I know you were going to answer back with some kind of "non-professional" remark. Get your head out of the "dark ages", I bet there are thousands, maybe even millions, of "professional" tuners just like me out their servicing pianos that NEVER learned the "dark ages art" of aural tuning. Why do you think, at least in this respect, the organization is getting - low - on RPT's ? BTW, the "computer age" has been here from quite some time, so you might as well grasp it before - you - turn into a dinosaur ! Plus, as I've been lurking in this list, there are many RPT's that are switching to the "machine age". Duaine On 05/10/2012 01:47 AM, <A href="mailto:tnrwim@aol.com">tnrwim@aol.com</A> wrote: > > Gary, that is the part I can't do and/or understand !!!! > > > Duaine > This is what I don't understand. How can you not understand, much less actually do, tune a piano wiithout the use of a > machine? That is why I made the "non-professional" comment. All you're doing is turning pegs with a tool until a > machine tells you the peg has been turned the right amount. That's not knowing how to tune a piano. That's knowing how > to manipulate a tool according to a machine. > Wim -- Duaine Hechler Piano, Player Piano, Pump Organ Tuning, Servicing& Rebuilding Reed Organ Society Member Florissant, MO 63034 (314) 838-5587 <A href="mailto:dahechler@att.net">dahechler@att.net</A> <A href="http://www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com/" target=_blank>www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com</A> -- Home& Business user of Linux - 11 years </TT></PRE></div> </div> </font>