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Here it is (hope you don’t mind, Jon):<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I have been using a fluid writing pen:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="http://www.dickblick.com/zz649/11/">http://www.dickblick.com/zz649/11/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>with water-based black acrylic paint, thin size for outline, thick for fill-in.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Gild the plate and spray clear finish coat, touching the plate will cause oxidation down the line. It is not advisable to apply a lacquer topcoat over water based products, they are not compatible. It might lift them off or cause them to crackle, been there, done that.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Applying to clear coat, the water based material can be wiped off if a mistake is made without compromising the gilded surface. I used to use black lacquer and there was no such thing as a small mistake. The gloss black acrylic does not need a top coat.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Application is a bit pains-taking for a primo job. Outline first. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Apply the left edge on all characters and the top. Go back and do the right edge and the bottom. Go back and fill in.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>If you try to do the entire character all at once it can pool too thick and run. A neater, faster job is accomplished with outlining first. Heck, if you have a real steady hand you can leave the treble logo on S&S's as outline characters just as original. I can't :-(<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>These fluid writing pens produce sharp, clean characters, better than a brush; especially for us untrained calligraphers. – Jon Page<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Kemper Fluid Writer Pen<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:140%'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;line-height:140%;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333'>This tool is ideal for fabric painting, drawings, signing artwork, making perfectly consistent dots, line-art, and French matting. You can use this pen with acrylic paints, watercolors, oils, or ink.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:140%'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;line-height:140%;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333'>Thin the paint to a watery consistency. Fill the pen using your brush tip loaded with paint. Hold it like a pen and draw evenly over the surface, allowing the paint to glide gently.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:140%'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;line-height:140%;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333'>Clean the pen thoroughly after each use with the enclosed cleaning plunger and soap and water. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><img border=0 width=600 height=100 id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CD2E97.786B9BF0"></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Will Truitt (as unauthorized agent for Jon Page </span><span style='font-family:Wingdings;color:black'>J</span><span style='color:black'>)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>David Love<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:16 AM<br><b>To:</b> pianotech@ptg.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [pianotech] plate finishing<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thank you. That’s what I was looking for.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>David Love<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.davidlovepianos.com">www.davidlovepianos.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]">[mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Nicholas Gravagne<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 10, 2012 6:56 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [pianotech] plate finishing<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>RE Paint pens:<br><br>Go to <a href="http://www.dickblick.com/products/elmers-painters-paint-markers/%20">http://www.dickblick.com/products/elmers-painters-paint-markers/ </a><br><br>Elmer's Paint Pens #<span class=itemskulink>21312-2002</span> <a name=21312-2002></a>Medium tip Black and #<span class=itemskulink>21312-2005 </span>Fine tip, $3.88 each. See in middle portion of web page.<br><br>I believe that I learned of these from someone on this list a few years ago. Anyway, they work great and if you make a mistake clean up is easy with a rag, no solvents or special cleaners. One thing, though; use pens prior to top clear coat, but "rough up" the raised plate letters with a rag or the paint will bead up as you apply it. Just rub the rag over the letters to break the glaze of your last lacquer coat, then all works fine. Final top coat does not cause the markings to smear or run.<br><br> NG<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 4:11 AM, Encore Pianos <<a href="mailto:encorepianos@metrocast.net" target="_blank">encorepianos@metrocast.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>They are not, Thump. Buy and try, then select what works best. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Will Truitt<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org" target="_blank">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org" target="_blank">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Euphonious Thumpe<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 10, 2012 6:29 AM</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" target="_blank">pianotech@ptg.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [pianotech] plate finishing<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'>Don't remember the brand. Probably all about the same.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'>Euphonious Thumpe<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> David Love <<a href="mailto:davidlovepianos@comcast.net" target="_blank">davidlovepianos@comcast.net</a>><br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" target="_blank">pianotech@ptg.org</a> <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 9, 2012 9:57 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [pianotech] plate finishing</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I kind of figured the color. What type of pen. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>David Love</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.davidlovepianos.com" target="_blank">www.davidlovepianos.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:currentColor currentColor'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org" target="_blank">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]" target="_blank">[mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Euphonious Thumpe<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 09, 2012 6:39 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" target="_blank">pianotech@ptg.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [pianotech] plate finishing</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'>From art supply stores. Gloss-black, available in several tip types.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'>Euphonious Thumpe<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> David Love <<a href="mailto:davidlovepianos@comcast.net" target="_blank">davidlovepianos@comcast.net</a>><br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" target="_blank">pianotech@ptg.org</a> <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 9, 2012 9:15 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [pianotech] plate finishing</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Which paint pens do you use</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>David Love</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.davidlovepianos.com" target="_blank">www.davidlovepianos.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:currentColor'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org" target="_blank">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]" target="_blank">[mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Euphonious Thumpe<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 09, 2012 6:07 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" target="_blank">pianotech@ptg.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [pianotech] plate finishing</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'>I don't know about Will, but the paint pens I use have paint in them that would be disturbed by the solvents in a top coat.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'>Euphonious Thumpe<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> "<a href="mailto:chrisstor@aol.com" target="_blank">chrisstor@aol.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:chrisstor@aol.com" target="_blank">chrisstor@aol.com</a>><br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" target="_blank">pianotech@ptg.org</a> <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 9, 2012 8:43 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> [pianotech] plate finishing</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Will, </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Just to be clear, do you do your plate lettering just before the final coat of clear?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Chris S.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all><br>-- <br>Nick Gravagne, RPT<br>AST Mechanical Engineering<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>