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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Hi Del:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>The one I used is the Shachihata Artline 440XF paint marker, which comes in 2 sizes, 2.3 mm and 1.2 mm. The 2.3 mm lay the pigment down nicely and covered well on one pass, the first 1.2 mm. didn’t work at all. I exchanged it for another that did. I think what I will do from now on is try the pens in the store before I leave so that I can either get one that works or not buy it at all. I got mine from an art supply store, but they are available online also <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I don’t know how this stacks up against other good pens, but it worked pretty well for me. I lettered over my topcoat, as the urethane affects the pigment in these pens, but it seems pretty fast in place. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Will<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Delwin D Fandrich<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 10, 2012 11:41 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Euphonious Thumpe'; pianotech@ptg.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [pianotech] plate finishing<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'>No, actually they are not all about the same. A while back I purchased a couple of these things that didn’t work at all. They were billed as paint pens but the paint ended up flaking off. I’d like to know the brand names and the exact types of those that do work well.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'>ddf<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#632423'>Delwin D Fandrich</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#632423'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#632423'>Piano Design & Fabrication</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#632423'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#632423'>6939 Foothill Court SW, </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#632423'>Olympia, Washington 98512 USA<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#632423'>Phone 360.515.0119 — Cell 360.388.6525</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#632423'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#632423'><a href="mailto:del@fandrichpiano.com">del@fandrichpiano.com </a>— <a href="mailto:ddfandrich@gmail.com">ddfandrich@gmail.com</a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]">[mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Euphonious Thumpe<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 10, 2012 3:29 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [pianotech] plate finishing<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='color:black'>Don't remember the brand. Probably all about the same.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='color:black'>Euphonious Thumpe<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> David Love <<a href="mailto:davidlovepianos@comcast.net">davidlovepianos@comcast.net</a>><br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a> <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 9, 2012 9:57 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [pianotech] plate finishing</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id=yiv1890192882><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I kind of figured the color. What type of pen. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>David Love</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.davidlovepianos.com" target="_blank">www.davidlovepianos.com</a></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:currentColor currentColor'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]">[mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Euphonious Thumpe<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 09, 2012 6:39 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [pianotech] plate finishing</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='color:black'>From art supply stores. Gloss-black, available in several tip types.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='color:black'>Euphonious Thumpe<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> David Love <<a href="mailto:davidlovepianos@comcast.net">davidlovepianos@comcast.net</a>><br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a> <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 9, 2012 9:15 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [pianotech] plate finishing</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=yiv1890192882><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Which paint pens do you use</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>David Love</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.davidlovepianos.com" target="_blank">www.davidlovepianos.com</a></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:currentColor'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]">[mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Euphonious Thumpe<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 09, 2012 6:07 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [pianotech] plate finishing</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='color:black'>I don't know about Will, but the paint pens I use have paint in them that would be disturbed by the solvents in a top coat.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='color:black'>Euphonious Thumpe<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> "<a href="mailto:chrisstor@aol.com">chrisstor@aol.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:chrisstor@aol.com">chrisstor@aol.com</a>><br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a> <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 9, 2012 8:43 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> [pianotech] plate finishing</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id=yiv1890192882><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Will, </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Just to be clear, do you do your plate lettering just before the final coat of clear?</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Chris S.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal 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