Oops. Meant to include that I was watching the Giro on my iPhone. And it would be rather difficult to watch an ETD and that the same time.<span></span><br><br>On Friday, May 11, 2012, John Formsma wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hey guys, <div><br></div><div>Hate to tell ya, but y'all are wrong about ETD use. </div><div><br></div><div>If one tunes aurally, he can do other useful things with his eyes. Like this morning...I watched the last part of today's stage in the Giro d'Italia during my first tuning. And now reading email (and responding) during the last one. </div>
<div><br></div><div>At F#4 currently, tuning unisons as I go. </div><div><br></div><div>Or I suppose one could also use his eyes to look at things on the piano, which I also do. Just not when the Giro is on.<span></span></div>
<div><br></div><div>:-)</div><div><br></div><div>John Formsma</div><div><br>On Friday, May 11, 2012, Jason Kanter wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<font><font face="verdana,sans-serif">I was not making a claim, simply responding to your "I don't recall" statement here:</font></font><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div><div style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><i><span>I don't understand those that think </span><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,0)">they produce a superior tuning using</span></i></blockquote>
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<i><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,0)">just their ears</span><span>,as opposed to another tuner that is using his ears AND a</span></i></blockquote></div></div><div><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<i>machine.</i></blockquote></div></div><div><div><i><br></i></div></div><div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px"><i><span>Me either,</span><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,0)"> nor do I recall anyone - *ever* - claiming that </span><span>in any of these discussions. ????</span></i></span></div>
<div><i><span>Ron N</span> </i></div></blockquote><div>Personally, I side with Ron Koval - use the ETD, evaluate with your ears, make adjustments to the ETD settings accordingly. A marvelous tool. I use both Tunelab and Verituner. Tunelab is better for the first pass, on anything that's more than 2 cents south. Verituner is awesome for fine tuning. Both are robots that need intelligent instructions.</div>
<div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Ron Nossaman <span dir="ltr"><<a>rnossaman@cox.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>On 5/11/2012 1:28 PM, Jason Kanter wrote:<br>
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Well, Ron, there was the classic Virgil vs Coleman tune-off that spawned<br>
a lot of discussion about Virgil's aural method as superior in some<br>
respects.<br>
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Meaning what? As I recall, Jim got about half of the votes too, and neither of these folks is representative of either aural or ETD tuners. Both are rather extraordinary.<br>
Ron N<br>
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</blockquote></div><br><br>-- <br><div>John Formsma, RPT<br></div><div>Blue Mountain, MS</div><br>
</blockquote><br><br>-- <br><div>John Formsma, RPT<br></div><div>Blue Mountain, MS</div><br>