<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>On 2012-05-15, at 6:11 PM, "Joseph Garrett" <<a href="mailto:joegarrett@earthlink.net">joegarrett@earthlink.net</a>> wrote: <blockquote type="cite">Ron said: </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">"I'm actually suggesting to work less hard, not more! The whole point was </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">to partner with an ETD (in my case, the Verituner)and automate the process </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">of targeting a 'wow' tuning. It may take a little extra time while you </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">develop the data and experiencehow to manipulate your particular ETD, and </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">none seem to be as adaptive to what I'm suggesting as the Verituner at this </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">time... </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">But once you have the data of what stretch fits what piano, it isn't any </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">harder than any other ETD tuning. New models or unusual pianos to you </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">require checking the A's and choosing a stretch to fit - giving you more </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">data... </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">The whole point being that there is a painless process in place to at least </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">target something closer to a 'wow' tuning. </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Whether or not the piano can be wrestled into submission in the time at </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">hand is a different question!" </blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Ron Kovalchicagoland, </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">And of course this assumes the MAJOR ASSUMPTION that the piano, in </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">question, has an absolutely perfect inharmonicity curve and all of the wire </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">changes do not occur on those notes! Yeah, Right!<G> Not what Mr. Nossaman </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">had in mind, I suspect. Certainly not what I was talking about. </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Joe </blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> </blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Joe Garrett, R.P.T. </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Captain of the Tool Police </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Squares R I </blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> </blockquote> </div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">     True,  The other tuning programs do take a few samples and create a generalized curve.<span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">.<span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">But, Verituner takes samples comtinuously for every note on the piano, and therefore does actually factor in inharmonisity jumps of the stringing scale, and all quirks it hears thought the piano.</div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "> It does create an actual aural style tuning, always listening, unlike the other programs that extrapolate a general curve from a few samples.......what he is suggesting might work......</div></body></html>