<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:ns0="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)"> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PostalCode"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="State"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="City"/>  <style>  </style>  </head> <body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=blue> <div class=Section1> I’ve found the Rain-X brand glass cleaner works great on high polish poly finishes. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div> Dean<o:p></o:p> Dean W May                        (812) 235-5272 voice and text<o:p></o:p> PianoRebuilders.com           (888) DEAN-MAY         <o:p></o:p> <ST1:PLACE u1:st="on"><ST1:PLACE u2:st="on"><U2:CITY u1:st="on"><ns0:City w:insAuthor="Dean May" w:insDate="2012-05-17T09:02:00Z" w:endInsAuthor="Dean May" w:endInsDate="2012-05-17T09:02:00Z"><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Terre Haute</st1:City></st1:place></ns0:City></U2:CITY> <ns0:State w:insAuthor="Dean May" w:insDate="2012-05-17T09:02:00Z" w:endInsAuthor="Dean May" w:endInsDate="2012-05-17T09:02:00Z"><U2:STATE u1:st="on"><st1:State w:st="on">IN</U2:STATE></st1:State></ns0:State> <ns0:PostalCode w:insAuthor="Dean May" w:insDate="2012-05-17T09:02:00Z" w:endInsAuthor="Dean May" w:endInsDate="2012-05-17T09:02:00Z"><U2:POSTALCODE u1:st="on"><st1:PostalCode w:st="on">47802</st1:PostalCode>           Give us a LIKE on Facebook! <a href="https://www.facebook.com/pages/PianoRebuilderscom/137780082943148">Go to PianoRebuilders.com</a></U2:POSTALCODE></ns0:PostalCode><o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center tabindex=-1> </div> From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Piano Boutique Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 8:34 AM To: pianotech@ptg.org Subject: Re: [pianotech] Glass cleaner to remove cigarette tar,how to bag a piano, and other piano-cleaning fun...<o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> <div> If you are going to consider a glass cleaner, you might try glass plus.   Unlike Windex, it has no ammonia and will not damage the finish.<o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> William<o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p> </div> <blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt; margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'> <div> ----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p> </div> <div style='font-color:black'> From: <a href="mailto:lclgcnp@yahoo.com" title="lclgcnp@yahoo.com">Euphonious Thumpe</a> <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> To: <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" title="pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a> ; <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" title="pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a> <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 6:48 PM<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Glass cleaner to remove cigarette tar,how to bag a piano, and other piano-cleaning fun...<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <o:p> </o:p> </div> <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0> <tr> <td valign=top style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'> <div> Thanks. I truly appreciate the suggestion, and indeed did go to the store to check out "Scrubbing Bubbles" on my way to "slay this dragon". But all the varieties at the Publix here had some sort of scent, so I held off and just got more glass cleaner. ( Publix brand has a milder, less headache-inducing odor than, say, Windex, that also goes away faster.) I had a very bad experience with Febreze years ago ( left a weird smell in a piano that made me quite ill) so I'm wary. But I do intend to get some "Scrubbing Bubbles" tonight, which I'll try on a junk piano part to see if the perfume goes away enough for me. Related news: I went to the office of the nice, climate-controlled storage facility where this Chickering Ampico now "lives", and noticed several sizes of mattress bags for sale. I bought the king-sized ( for $4) and found that it fit very nicely over this on-its-side, 5'8" grand, "quarantining" it until I can get it all cleaned. (Yay!!!) And just now realized that such a bag (a fresh one) will also be PERFECT for pumping ozone into (from my $800-- small version-- ozone generator) once all accessible, overt contamination has been removed. I know the ozone will damage all the rubber stuff, but all the bellows cloth and tubing need replacement, anyhow. Peace, Thumpe<o:p></o:p> </div> </td> </tr> </table> <div id="_origMsg_"> <div> <o:p> </o:p> <div> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'> <hr size=1 width="100%" align=center> </div> From: Douglas Gregg <classicpianodoc@gmail.com>; To: pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org>; Subject: [pianotech] Glass cleaner to remove cigarette tar and other piano-cleaning fun... Sent: Wed, May 16, 2012 3:15:47 PM <o:p></o:p> <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0> <tr> <td valign=top style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'> Trumpe, I have had the same kind of piano in my shop and it really does stink up the place. I have had wonderful success with  Dow Scrubbing Bubbles Bathroom Cleaner. It  has done the trick without water  rinsing. Spray the bubbles on, watch the brown tar and nicotine float off and blow them off or vacuum them up  with a strong shopvac (large cantainer type to catch the foam). In some cases I have also used a McCulloch steamer to blow the bubbles and crap with high pressure steam to a place where it can be absorbed with paper towels. The combination of steam and Scrubbing Bubbles  works very well. Finally blow dry with compressed air or a Metro Vac or leaf blower. You can use it on all hard surfaces and strip  felt. I avoid leather and hammer heads. You have to try this. The Scrubbing bubbles comes  in a tall green colored aerosol can. I like it better than Super Clean. Much easier to use and works better too. Doug Gregg Classic Piano Doc <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Southold</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">NY</st1:State></st1:place> Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 02:43:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Euphonious Thumpe <<a href="javascript:return" ymailto="mailto:lclgcnp@yahoo.com">lclgcnp@yahoo.com</a>> To: <a href="javascript:return" ymailto="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a> Subject: [pianotech] Glass cleaner to remove cigarette tar and other       piano-cleaning fun... Message-ID:       <<a href="javascript:return" ymailto="mailto:1337161420.17649.YahooMailMobile@web114718.mail.gq1.yahoo.com">1337161420.17649.YahooMailMobile@web114718.mail.gq1.yahoo.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"     Got a "free" Chickering Ampico grand w/500 rolls last month. I put that in quotes because the stench of tobacco tar on this one is truly atrocious. ( Terribly stinking up my shop.) I was able to take all the removable case parts (refinished maybe 30 years ago) outside and spray them with "Purple Power" ( cheaper version of Castrol's "Super Clean" that doesn't have the lye smell "Super Clean" now has, that doesn't rinse out) and scrub them with a green Scotch-Brite pad and hose off and quickly dry. After 2 such scrubbings, the smell is only barely detectable and this remainder will come out during refinishing, I trust.     The main body of the piano is a "different animal", though. So far I've hit it with glass cleaner and wiped with paper towels --- but how am I going to really get the smell out of the underside? (After removing the player system, of course.) Blasting with Purple Power and a hose sounds too potentially damaging. (Even if quickly dried, and after the plate and strings are out.) Suggestions appreciated. I'm anticipating a lot of hand-wiping and then bagging the thing and blasting with high-concentration ozone for a while, and I'll report on how well that works. But any other ideas on how to clean all the parts and get thje smell out would be appreciated.     As far as the rolls goes: I've been vacuuming off the boxes and then wiping them with naptha-soaked paper towels, which seems to be getting some of the tar off the cardboard, without disturbing the ink on them. Sincerely, Thumpe<o:p></o:p> </td> </tr> </table> <o:p> </o:p> </div> </div> </div> </blockquote> </div> </body> </html>