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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>If you are going to consider a glass cleaner, you
might try glass plus. Unlike Windex, it has no ammonia and will not
damage the finish.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>William</FONT></DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=lclgcnp@yahoo.com href="mailto:lclgcnp@yahoo.com">Euphonious
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 16, 2012 6:48
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [pianotech] Glass cleaner to
remove cigarette tar,how to bag a piano, and other piano-cleaning fun...</DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks. I truly appreciate the suggestion, and indeed did go to the
store to check out "Scrubbing Bubbles" on my way to "slay this dragon".
But all the varieties at the Publix here had some sort of scent, so I
held off and just got more glass cleaner. ( Publix brand has a milder,
less headache-inducing odor than, say, Windex, that also goes away
faster.) I had a very bad experience with Febreze years ago ( left a
weird smell in a piano that made me quite ill) so I'm wary. But I do
intend to get some "Scrubbing Bubbles" tonight, which I'll try on a junk
piano part to see if the perfume goes away enough for me.<BR>Related
news: I went to the office of the nice, climate-controlled storage
facility where this Chickering Ampico now "lives", and noticed several
sizes of mattress bags for sale. I bought the king-sized ( for $4) and
found that it fit very nicely over this on-its-side, 5'8" grand,
"quarantining" it until I can get it all cleaned. (Yay!!!) And just now
realized that such a bag (a fresh one) will also be PERFECT for pumping
ozone into (from my $800-- small version-- ozone generator) once all
accessible, overt contamination has been removed. I know the ozone will
damage all the rubber stuff, but all the bellows cloth and tubing need
replacement, anyhow.<BR><BR>Peace,<BR>Thumpe</DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN> </B>Douglas Gregg
<classicpianodoc@gmail.com>; <BR><B><SPAN>To:</SPAN> </B>pianotech
<pianotech@ptg.org>; <BR><B><SPAN>Subject:</SPAN> </B>[pianotech] Glass
cleaner to remove cigarette tar and other piano-cleaning fun... <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN> </B>Wed, May 16, 2012 3:15:47 PM
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<TD vAlign=top>Trumpe,<BR>I have had the same kind of piano in my shop
and it really does stink<BR>up the place. I have had wonderful success
with Dow Scrubbing Bubbles<BR>Bathroom Cleaner. It has done
the trick without water rinsing. Spray<BR>the bubbles on, watch
the brown tar and nicotine float off and blow<BR>them off or vacuum them
up with a strong shopvac (large cantainer<BR>type to catch the
foam). In some cases I have also used a McCulloch<BR>steamer to blow the
bubbles and crap with high pressure steam to a<BR>place where it can be
absorbed with paper towels. The combination of<BR>steam and Scrubbing
Bubbles works very well. Finally blow dry with<BR>compressed air
or a Metro Vac or leaf blower. You can use it on all<BR>hard surfaces
and strip felt. I avoid leather and hammer heads. You<BR>have to
try this. The Scrubbing bubbles comes in a tall green
colored<BR>aerosol can. I like it better than Super Clean. Much easier
to use and<BR>works better too.<BR><BR>Doug Gregg<BR>Classic Piano
Doc<BR>Southold, NY<BR><BR>Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 02:43:40 -0700
(PDT)<BR>From: Euphonious Thumpe <<A href="javascript:return"
ymailto="mailto:lclgcnp@yahoo.com">lclgcnp@yahoo.com</A>><BR>To: <A
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ymailto="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A><BR>Subject:
[pianotech] Glass cleaner to remove cigarette tar and other<BR>
piano-cleaning fun...<BR>Message-ID:<BR>
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ymailto="mailto:1337161420.17649.YahooMailMobile@web114718.mail.gq1.yahoo.com">1337161420.17649.YahooMailMobile@web114718.mail.gq1.yahoo.com</A>><BR>Content-Type:
text/plain; charset="utf-8"<BR><BR> Got a "free" Chickering
Ampico grand w/500 rolls last month. I<BR>put that in quotes because the
stench of tobacco tar on this one is<BR>truly atrocious. ( Terribly
stinking up my shop.) I was able to take<BR>all the removable case parts
(refinished maybe 30 years ago) outside<BR>and spray them with "Purple
Power" ( cheaper version of Castrol's<BR>"Super Clean" that doesn't have
the lye smell "Super Clean" now<BR>has, that doesn't rinse out) and
scrub them with a green<BR>Scotch-Brite pad and hose off and quickly
dry. After 2 such<BR>scrubbings, the smell is only barely detectable and
this remainder<BR>will come out during refinishing, I trust.<BR>
The main body of the piano is a "different animal", though. So
far<BR>I've hit it with glass cleaner and wiped with paper towels ---
but<BR>how am I going to really get the smell out of the underside?
(After<BR>removing the player system, of course.) Blasting with Purple
Power and<BR>a hose sounds too potentially damaging. (Even if quickly
dried, and<BR>after the plate and strings are out.) Suggestions
appreciated. I'm<BR>anticipating a lot of hand-wiping and then bagging
the thing and<BR>blasting with high-concentration ozone for a while, and
I'll<BR>report on how well that works. But any other ideas on how to
clean all<BR>the parts and get thje smell out would be
appreciated.<BR> As far as the rolls goes: I've been
vacuuming off the boxes<BR>and then wiping them with naptha-soaked paper
towels, which seems to<BR>be getting some of the tar off the cardboard,
without disturbing the<BR>ink on
them.<BR><BR>Sincerely,<BR>Thumpe<BR></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>