<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I find it amazing and very distasteful how so many aural tuners on this list put themselves up as Gods, who think that can say anything they dam_ed please, with no regard or respect for others. Very sad indeed.<div><br><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div>Al -</div><div>High Point, NC</div><div><br></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> </div> <br><div><div>On May 26, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Susan Kline wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div>On 5/25/2012 10:26 PM, Duaine Hechler wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">Whether you or anyone else likes it or not, there are more ETD users, without aural training, than ever, and it's only growing more and more every year and aural tuners are going to become less and less every year.<br></blockquote>To the extent that is true, our profession, sadly, is moving downhill toward less capability, less willingness to invest effort, and greater ignorance.<br><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">And has been proven over and over and over and over and over, ETD tunings are well enough to provide every tuning from the home to universities to symphonies, music studios and more.<br></blockquote>Assuming the operator is up to it as well. And to what extent are the symphonies and music studios, etc., just forced to accept who's out there for lack of better options?<br><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">AND, to add injury to insult, the SMARTER the ETD's get, the LESS and LESS is needed for aural tuning skills. <br></blockquote><br>And who is able to make them smarter, except people who can compare what the machine is giving them to what their ears are telling them?<br><br>Susan<br><br><br><br></div></div><br></div></body></html>