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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>So your point is, Wim, that we all would be dead already without our ETD’s? I’m going to start sleeping with mine. </span><span style='font-family:Wingdings;color:black'>J</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Will <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>tnrwim@aol.com<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, May 26, 2012 2:08 PM<br><b>To:</b> pianotech@ptg.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [pianotech] Stretch in Tuning(s)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 2.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre><tt><span style='color:black'>> AND, to add injury to insult, the SMARTER the ETD's get, the LESS and <o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre><tt><span style='color:black'>> LESS is needed for aural tuning skills. <o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre><tt><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></pre><pre><tt><span style='color:black'>And who is able to make them smarter, except people who can compare what <o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre><tt><span style='color:black'>the machine is giving them to what their ears are telling them?<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre><tt><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></pre><pre><tt><span style='color:black'>Susan</span><o:p></o:p></tt></pre></blockquote></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I just heard a report on NPR about the shortage of nurses in hospitals. There is a shortage because, as one nurse said, there are too many patients, and the hospitals are not keeping up. The reason there are more patients is because of the new technology that is keeping people alive longer, even when their health is worse. So technology is working to keep people alive, but no matter how good the technology is, hands on, personal care is still needed to take care of the patients. Get the point?</span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Wim<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Susan Kline <<a href="mailto:skline@peak.org">skline@peak.org</a>><br>To: pianotech <<a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a>><br>Sent: Sat, May 26, 2012 4:49 am<br>Subject: Re: [pianotech] Stretch in Tuning(s)<o:p></o:p></span></p><div id="AOLMsgPart_0_33306eba-af33-498f-95cb-7b52b341b89e"><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>On 5/25/2012 10:26 PM, Duaine Hechler wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>> Whether you or anyone else likes it or not, there are more ETD users, <o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>> without aural training, than ever, and it's only growing more and more <o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>> every year and aural tuners are going to become less and less every year.<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>To the extent that is true, our profession, sadly, is moving downhill <o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>toward less capability, less willingness to invest effort, and greater <o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>ignorance.<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>> And has been proven over and over and over and over and over, ETD <o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>> tunings are well enough to provide every tuning from the home to <o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>> universities to symphonies, music studios and more.<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>Assuming the operator is up to it as well. And to what extent are the <o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>symphonies and music studios, etc., just forced to accept who's out <o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>there for lack of better options?<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>> AND, to add injury to insult, the SMARTER the ETD's get, the LESS and <o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>> LESS is needed for aural tuning skills. <o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>And who is able to make them smarter, except people who can compare what <o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>the machine is giving them to what their ears are telling them?<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>Susan<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></pre></div></div></div></body></html>