<html> <head> <style></style></head> <body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'> Old, tired argument. Results are all that matter. <br><br><br>Terry "UniGeezer" Peterson<br>"Over 50, and not '2' Tired!" <br><a style="font-weight:bold" href="http://unigeezer.com/" target="_blank">www.unigeezer.com</a><br><br><br><div><div id="SkyDrivePlaceholder"></div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 19:18:59 -0700<br>From: jkanter@rollingball.com<br>To: pianotech@ptg.org<br>Subject: Re: [pianotech] ETD tuning Vs Aural- Some Wisdom<br><br><font face="verdana,sans-serif">Strikes me that the ETD-only user vs. the fully qualified RPT is like the optician vs. opthalmologist. One can do the measurements but need not, and probably doesn't, understand the complexities and can't handle complications. </font><div> <font face="verdana,sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="verdana,sans-serif">Jason<br></font><br><div class="ecxgmail_quote">On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 1:45 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tnrwim@aol.com">tnrwim@aol.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><font color="black" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">I own only one hammer, and just barely enough mutes to block off a couple of strings. (I don't use a strip mute). The charger for my SAT IV stays at home. I have no extra batteries, no extension cords, and one car. (my wife has a car, but needs it). I've been doing it this way for 38 years. About once every 3 or 4 months my battery runs out during the middle of a tuning. That's when I use the same back up as Gary uses. </font></div> <div> </div> <div>Wim<br> <br> </div><div><div class="h5"> <div style="clear:both"> <div> </div> </div> <br> <div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,helvetica">-----Original Message-----<br> From: Gary <<a href="mailto:gmcc@charter.net">gmcc@charter.net</a>><br> To: pianotech <<a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a>><br> Sent: Mon, May 28, 2012 10:15 am<br> Subject: Re: [pianotech] ETD tuning Vs Aural- Some Wisdom<br> <br> <div>Thanks Bill, but I think you're missing the point of my post.<br> My years of aural tuning was the backup.<br> Now to your reply:<br> I know I've been walking on a thin line with my IPAQ about to fizz out on me.  <br> I've got an ipad and iphone that both go with me everyday, so my only quandary at the moment is<br> choosing between Tunelab and Verituner (no interest in Cybertuner, sorry Duaine).<br> gary<br> On 5/28/2012 7:48 AM, Bill Fritz wrote: <blockquote><font color="black" face="arial"> <div>Gary, no offense, but...  </div> <div> </div> <div>Do you have two tuning hammers?  I sure do... maybe like 5.</div> <div> </div> <div>Do you have extra tuning felts?  I sure do...  more than two full sets worth.</div> <div> </div> <div>Do you only one battery for your iPAQ?  You might want to procure a back up.  I have a battery charger for my iPAQ so it can continue to function when I'm tuning, and have the iPAQ ready for the next piano in case there are no electrical outlets within 200'.  I have an extra battery (approx $17 generic)... actually 2 extras.  And I have an extra charger cord ($5 via Amazon).  I even carry extra heavy duty extension cords in my car.</div> <div> </div> <div>Do you only have one ETD?  I have Veritune for my iPAQ... and a number of months ago I also bought ($599) Veritune for my iPhone4 (my cellphone I use for business, as well) as a back-up (and to play w/ the Spectrum mode :-).  TuneLab can be had for the iPhone for about $299, and can be downloaded in seconds...  Apple computers are standing by.</div> <div> </div> <div>Do you only have one car?  If I'm a good little boy, my wife lets me use her's... which happened one time... driving away from the house, the computer said "Low Tire Pressure".  DANG!!  I don't think Aural (or walking) techniques would have gotten me to my client's & back (45mi one way).</div> <div> </div> <div>Back-up plans are nice...   Bill Fritz, St Louis</div> <div> </div> <div>PS  Your 27 years of Aural tuning are to be commended.  My RPT father was of similar era, tuning Aurally for at least 35 years, but he loved his SAT ETD when it came out, and bought a used spare in case it died.  He admitted that he wasn't sure he could do as good a tuning without it, having not Aurally tuned for years.</div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div> <table> <tbody> <tr valign="top"> <td style="padding-right:10px;padding-left:9px;padding-top:1px;font:11px arial;background:#f9f9f9;padding-bottom:1px" nowrap="nowrap">From:</td> <td style="font:11px arial;background:#f9f9f9">Gary <a href="mailto:gmcc@charter.net"><gmcc@charter.net></a></td></tr> <tr valign="top"> <td style="padding-right:10px;padding-left:9px;padding-top:1px;font:11px arial;background:#f9f9f9;padding-bottom:1px">To:</td> <td style="font:11px arial;background:#f9f9f9"><a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a></td></tr> <tr valign="top"> <td style="padding-right:10px;padding-left:9px;padding-top:1px;font:11px arial;background:#f9f9f9;padding-bottom:1px">Subject:</td> <td style="font:11px arial;background:#f9f9f9">Re: [pianotech] ETD tuning Vs Aural- Some Wisdom</td></tr> <tr valign="top"> <td style="padding-right:10px;padding-left:9px;padding-top:1px;font:11px arial;background:#f9f9f9;padding-bottom:1px">Date:</td> <td style="font:11px arial;background:#f9f9f9">Sun, 27 May 2012 14:04:36 -0500</td></tr></tbody></table></div> <div>To begin, let me mention that I use an ETD. I was an aural tuner for 27years before incorporating an electronic devise into my arsenal.<br> This past Thursday, there was a bit of communication breakdown between a client and I, regarding what time we actually made the appointment for.<br> Suffice it to say, that appointment wasn't kept. However, we did reschedule it for Sat morning. As I was ready to leave that morning, I reached for my IPAQ<br> on it's cradle, and was horrified to note that the charge light was not on, meaning, well..it wasn't charged. So, what was I to do? Call the lady and explain that<br> my tuning device wasn't charged, therefore I couldn't tune her piano? What, and really look like a fool then? No way; I just went and tuned it like I did back in the old days.<br> So, there is some worth in knowing..<br> gary</div> </font></blockquote><br> <br> </div> </div> </div></div></font></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div style="text-align:left"><b>| || ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| || |||</b></div><div style="text-align:left">jason's cell 425 830 1561</div> <br> </div></div> </div></body> </html>