<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"><meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)"><style></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Cheapest is definitely Tunelab ($299 app for the ipad), less if you are downloading for a computer.  Also allows you to play with the programming a lot and is probably a good way to play with and learn about partials and such.  The Accutuner will be more expensive but more hands off.  A used one is similar in price to Verituner app or RCT app.  The RCT app charges an annual fee FWIW.  I would not purchase too cheap a tuning hammer as it’s the hammer connection that is probably the most crucial.  While it doesn’t have to be a expensive custom hammer I would make sure that it’s substantial enough and set up properly to give them proper feel of the tuning pin.  <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>David Love<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>www.davidlovepianos.com<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Al Guecia/Allied PianoCraft<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 05, 2012 5:10 AM<br><b>To:</b> pianotech@ptg.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [pianotech] tuning equipment<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Add my 2 cents and make it 4.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Al -<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>High Point, NC<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Jun 5, 2012, at 2:09 AM, Paul McCloud wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-tab-span>            </span>Cheapest ETD is probably TuneLab, or a used Accutuner.<br><span class=apple-tab-span>            </span>She should try tuning unisons first, to get a feel for using the hammer.  If she can't do unisons, an ETD isn't going to help much. Learning to tune by ear is actually the cheapest way, and she'll have more fun learning to hear beats, etc.  Aural tuning is more interesting than watching lights or a screen.  These won't tell you much about what's going on behind the scenes.  My guess is, if you lent her your ETD and let her try tuning, she'd give up in a short while.  Without some kind of motive ($$$) other than intellectual stimulation, the learning curve is too steep for most people.  If she just wants to dabble on her own piano, trust me she'll become a very loyal customer in a VERY short time when she finds out it isn't all that easy to do.<br><span class=apple-tab-span>            </span>My too scents.<br><span class=apple-tab-span>            </span>Paul McCloud<br><span class=apple-tab-span>            </span>SaN DIeGo<br><br>On 06/04/2012 10:47 PM, Tom Gorley wrote:<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>The 50 year old daughter of a former client wants to dabble with piano<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>tuning. She doesn't want to go into business, just learn something new.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>She wants to get a middle-of-the-road hammer. 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