<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><div>What does the understring felt have to do with tuning stability? Respectfully, Thumpe</div></td></tr></table> <div id="_origMsg_"> <div style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif:font-size:10pt"> <div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"> <hr size="1"> From: Encore Pianos <encorepianos@metrocast.net>; To: <pianotech@ptg.org>; Subject: Re: [pianotech] Steinway Model "O" Sent: Mon, Jun 11, 2012 10:26:14 PM <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td valign="top" style="font:inherit;">WELL....  That would seem intuitively obvious.  Dead things don't move. :-) Will Truitt -----Original Message----- From: <a ymailto="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org" href="javascript:return">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a> [mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org" href="javascript:return">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a>] On Behalf Of Overs Pianos Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 4:09 PM To: <a ymailto="mailto:joegarrett@earthlink.net" href="javascript:return">joegarrett@earthlink.net</a>; <a ymailto="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" href="javascript:return">pianotech@ptg.org</a> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Steinway Model "O" Hi Joe, I would agree that the more collapsed the panel, in general, the better will be the tuning stability, provided that the seniority of the instrument isn't also accompanied with a development of poor string rendering, which is common with S&S and the myriad others who have longish/stiff under-string felt with unhardened and wide-ish counter-bearing bars. But if the rendering is fine, a dead board will invariably result in outstanding stability. Ron O. >I have a client with a S&S Model "O". (early version of the current >Model "L"). The piano was his Mother's piano. When it first arrived, I >assessed it's condition and told the client that the piano was "shot". >The soundboard had many screws through to ribs to curtail buzzes. Lots >of cracks in the board. The Killer Octave had reduced sustain. Basic S.B. >shape was a "W"! Y'all know the symptoms, (or at least your should<G>). >The basic design of the Bass bridge was wrong, (no pairs of bi-chord >strings were equal, causing difficulty in unison tuning). And, there >were hair-line cracks at the bridge pins. Bass tone/projection was >adequate. Several loose tuning pins were noted with the initial tuning >process. Tonal condition of the strings is good. >The action was really toast! All original and 90 years old!l Plus, >major Vertigris problems. The dampers were still working, so not in the >mix of "problems". <G> Original finish?, ......Alligatored..Major! The >client doesn't care about the "finish".<G> I have since CA'd the loose >tuning pins. The bass bridge I can live with. >The piano is in a small, acoustically "live", living room, so lack of >power, is not an issue. The lack of sustain in the killer octave does >not bother the owner, since the piano is used mainly in string quartet >chamber music sort of thangs. Also, the action has been completely >rebuilt, w/new N.Y. Parts and Wurzen Hammers. At this point the piano >is extremely stable, especially in the killer octave. It sounds great >in this environment, imo and the owners.<G> This leads me to a >question: Because the soundboard is "shot", I suspect that the tuning >stability is due to the fact that the soundboard is not as reactive to >climatic changes, as would a new "lively" board. Any one care to >comment?<G> Regards, > >Joe Garrett, R.P.T. >Captain of the Tool Police >Squares R I -- OVERS PIANOS - SYDNEY     Grand Piano Manufacturers _______________________ Web <a href="http://overspianos.com.au" target=_blank >http://overspianos.com.au</a> mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:ron@overspianos.com.au" href="javascript:return">ron@overspianos.com.au</a> _______________________ A web page with images of recent work and almost-audio-CD quality mp3 sound files of the Overs piano can be found at; <a href="http://overspianos.com.au/more_info.htm" target=_blank >http://overspianos.com.au/more_info.htm</a> So put on your headphones, plug them into your freshly restarted computer and sit back to over 20 minutes of pure piano.   _______________________ </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> </div> </div> </div>