<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi, Paul and Rob!<div>paul got very good advises on that broken leg repair.</div><div>I had good experiences clamping hard -to-clamp pieces with Automotive hose clamps. Try it-it works.</div><div>I still prefer to secure Titebond glue joints with Hammer Shank Dowels.</div><div>And don't forget to VJ the Hanger bolt!</div><div>Good luck!</div><div>isaac<br><div><div>On Jun 19, 2012, at 3:06 PM, Rob McCall wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I had one that broke in 4 pieces and I fixed it by gluing all the pieces back together and clamping them with rubber bands (only way to hold them all together while they dried). Then I removed the bolt from the piano and mixed up some epoxy and poured the epoxy in the hole where the bolt went on the top of the leg, inserted the bolt, cleaned up the little epoxy that spilled over, and left the leg to dry for 24 hours. When I brought it back to the piano, it was rock solid, screwed right in and the client could hardly tell a repair was made.<div><br></div><div>It may not be per the book (if there is one :-) ), but it worked well for me.</div><div><br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Optima; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Optima; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; 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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Optima; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Optima; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Optima; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Regards,</div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Rob McCall</div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">McCall Piano Service, LLC<br><a href="http://www.mccallpiano.com">www.mccallpiano.com</a></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Murrieta, CA</div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">951-698-1875<br></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></span> </div> <br><div><div>On Jun 19, 2012, at 14:05 , Paul Williams wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=Windows-1252"> <div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> <div>I think you're maybe fine either way. Or you could go the whole 9 yards and clamp outside the piano, and clean up of glue squeeze made easier, then even plug and re tap the hole….or just clean up the hole inside. It's not a weight bearing leg…just for looks. Your choice.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>Paul</div> <div><br> </div> <div><br> </div> <span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"> <div style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:11pt; text-align:left; color:black; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"> <span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Paul Milesi <<a href="mailto:paul@pmpiano.com">paul@pmpiano.com</a>><br> <span style="font-weight:bold">Reply-To: </span>"<a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a>><br> <span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Tuesday, June 19, 2012 3:59 PM<br> <span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>PTG Pianotech List <<a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a>><br> <span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>[pianotech] Console Leg<br> </div> <div><br> </div> <div> <div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> <div>Today I encountered a 1970 Poole (Aeolian) console with a broken leg (see attached pic). The break is clean, about 13" long, and goes right around the large bolt which comes down out of the case. I have questions:</div> <div><br> </div> <div>(1) When making the glue repair, is it better to glue the leg up while it's off the piano, and then put it on, or should I simply apply glue and put the 2 pieces around the screw extending down and clamp? I'm thinking there will be glue squeeze in the screw hole, so you can't really let it dry before installing the leg. Best maybe to simply glue and clamp the 2 pieces right around the screw in place?</div> <div><br> </div> <div>(2) Any need for dowels? Seems to me this is not really a stress-bearing joint, assuming future moves are done properly and the weight is taken off the leg, above the carpet, etc.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>(3) The screw is somewhat loose coming down out of the case, wobbly a bit. Is this usual, and do I need to access this screw from above for tightening or anything? Or were these pianos made with the screws in place and the legs simply screwed on?</div> <div><br> </div> <div>Thanks.</div> <div><br> </div> <div> <div><font face="Verdana,Helvetica,Arial"><span style="font-size:14.0px">Paul Milesi RPT<br> Washington DC<br> (202) 246-3136 Cell/Text<br> <a href="mailto:paul@pmpiano.com">paul@pmpiano.com</a><br> <a href="http://www.pmpiano.com/">http://www.pmpiano.com</a></span></font></div> </div> </div> </div> </span> </div> </blockquote></div><br></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>