<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><div>Joe!<br />    I have 3 of those countersunk brass nuts (7/8" diameter)  on this Ampico grand, but they only have divots <br />(not slots) so I&#39;m planning to epoxy some upside-down, 3/32" drill bits into a small bar of steel, for "pegs", drill a 5/16" dent in the middle between them to encompass the slightly protruding bolt ends, apply pressure and twist. <br />     But why should I not use penetrating oil on this "nuts and bolts" problem? (As you mentioned.)  I&#39;m planning to take the plate out, tonight, so will be quite eagerly awaiting your response! (And suspect that the other guys on the list would like to know, too!)<br /><br /><br />Thanks,<br />Thumpe</div></td></tr></table>            <div id="_origMsg_">
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                                        <td valign="top" style="font:inherit;">Wim,<BR>Well, Yes &amp; No.&lt;G&gt; My tool, (which is time-tested&lt;G&gt;), if "tapping" is<BR>necessary, is in a downward motion, so it would not mess up the "notch(s)<BR>of the nut, like other methods would. <BR>That's my take on it.<BR>Joe<BR><BR><BR>&gt; [Original Message]<BR>&gt; From: &lt;<a ymailto="mailto:pianotech-request@ptg.org" href="javascript:return">pianotech-request@ptg.org</a>&gt;<BR>&gt; To: &lt;<a ymailto="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" href="javascript:return">pianotech@ptg.org</a>&gt;<BR>&gt; Date: 6/29/2012 11:00:05 AM<BR>&gt; Subject: pianotech Digest, Vol 44, Issue 78<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Send pianotech mailing list submissions to<BR>&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a ymailto="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" href="javascript:return">pianotech@ptg.org</a><BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<BR>&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a
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 14:43:02 -0400 (EDT)<BR>&gt; From: <a ymailto="mailto:tnrwim@aol.com" href="javascript:return">tnrwim@aol.com</a><BR>&gt; To: <a ymailto="mailto:joegarrett@earthlink.net" href="javascript:return">joegarrett@earthlink.net</a>, <a ymailto="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" href="javascript:return">pianotech@ptg.org</a><BR>&gt; Subject: Re: [pianotech] bad technique<BR>&gt; Message-ID: &lt;<a ymailto="mailto:8CF2374FBAED428-9C0-27B03@Webmail-m112.sysops.aol.com" href="javascript:return">8CF2374FBAED428-9C0-27B03@Webmail-m112.sysops.aol.com</a>&gt;<BR>&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Wim,<BR>&gt; ad advice, if the thing needs to be used again. Just what you need is a<BR>&gt; eird brass nut that is all gowed up from banging on it with an<BR>&gt; nappropriate tool! I guess that's why I'm the CotTP.&lt;G&gt;<BR>&gt; oe<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Joe<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; If you do as I suggested, "tap gently", you won't have
 that problem .Of<BR>course, there are limits to "gently" and sometimes the thing is frozen, and<BR>you have to use brute force. In that case, even the tool you suggest will<BR>mar the brass. But most of the time gentle tapping will do the job. <BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Wim<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; <BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; -----Original Message-----<BR>&gt; From: Joseph Garrett &lt;<a ymailto="mailto:joegarrett@earthlink.net" href="javascript:return">joegarrett@earthlink.net</a>&gt;<BR>&gt; To: pianotech &lt;<a ymailto="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" href="javascript:return">pianotech@ptg.org</a>&gt;<BR>&gt; Sent: Thu, Jun 28, 2012 5:05 am<BR>&gt; Subject: [pianotech] bad technique<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Wim said:<BR>&gt; Gene, <BR>&gt; ou can make a screw driver as Joe suggested. But the way I used to remove<BR>&gt; hese nuts is by gently tapping on one side of the nut with a small screw<BR>&gt; river blade. Depending on how tight it is,
 determines the size of the<BR>&gt; ammer, and the force used to loosen it." <BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; im,<BR>&gt; ad advice, if the thing needs to be used again. Just what you need is a<BR>&gt; eird brass nut that is all gowed up from banging on it with an<BR>&gt; nappropriate tool! I guess that's why I'm the CotTP.&lt;G&gt;<BR>&gt; oe<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; oe Garrett, R.P.T.<BR>&gt; aptain of the Tool Police<BR>&gt; quares R I<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; -------------- next part --------------<BR>&gt; An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>&gt; URL:<BR>&lt;<a href="https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/20120628/38c1a352/attac" target=_blank >https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/20120628/38c1a352/attac</a><BR>hment-0001.htm&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; ------------------------------<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; _______________________________________________<BR>&gt; pianotech mailing list<BR>&gt; <a ymailto="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org"
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