<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)"> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="City"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PersonName"/>  <style>  </style> </head> <body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=blue> <div class=Section1> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>You can move the tall ones to the trailer on a dolly, and then roll them in on a 1.5” piece of pvc pipe.  Marvelous little toy.  I used a 5X8 open trailer, and never moved anything I couldn’t pay for, and believe if you had to move two pianos you’d be in a world of tight with tools.    I have a $4 sledge hammer for driving pins, and $45 dollar needle nose pliers from Snap On for basic use and cutting piano wire.  They work as well as the complex wire cutters.  Sometimes saving money will cost a fortune in the long run- and if you’re serious about moving pianos, I’d sure go for the 6X10.  Having space to get the tracks in, and then move about the trailer will save you untold headaches…………<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Jmo<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Les bartlett<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <div> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center tabindex=-1> </span></font></div> <p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>tnrwim@aol.com<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, June 30, 2012 7:39 PM<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">pianotech@ptg.org</st1:PersonName><br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [pianotech] Cargo trailers</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Richard<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>There are several cargo trailer companies that will customer make your trailer. I looked at one about 20 years ago, and 6' inside height of the 6x10 trailer could be raised to 6'6", and the door to 6'. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>The other idea is to buy a used horse trailer. A tuner/tech in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">St. Louis</st1:place></st1:City> had one of them. Great stability, with the wheels outside the main cargo bin. And it had a drop down back gate. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Wim<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> </div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br> From: Richard W. Bushey <rbushey4@embarqmail.com><br> To: pianotech <<st1:PersonName w:st="on">pianotech@ptg.org</st1:PersonName>><br> Sent: Sat, Jun 30, 2012 2:24 pm<br> Subject: [pianotech] Cargo trailers<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <div id="AOLMsgPart_1_21fb00e8-e18d-4fc5-b53a-b9ca7c3481ce"> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I am looking to purchase a cargo trailer to move pianos (likely one at a time) to/from customer's home and shop mostly, and was curious what those here on the pianotech list would suggest.  I would install e-trak for sure.  I've been looking at either 5x8, or 6x10 cargo trailers.  If I went with the smaller, I'd have to go another route when moving a 9' grand, but I'm thinking those times would be few and far between, however, I'd rather be prepared. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>One of my main concerns is that most of the cargo trailers I've seen have short doors, (about 4.5 - 5.5 feet) which isn't a problem as much with a spinet or console strapped to a piano dolly, but clearance becomes a real issue when moving tall uprights on a dolly or a grand, which would be on a grand skid on a dolly.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Any suggestions as to what to purchase, work arounds that you all have found to work with the shorter standard doors, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Richard W. 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