<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I agree.  I ground my tool down to half its diameter long ago.  <br><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 20px/normal 'Book Antiqua'; color: rgb(34, 58, 168); "><span style="font: normal normal normal 20px/normal 'Corsiva Hebrew'; "><b>   </b></span><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">Tom Gorley</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Kokonor; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#910f08">Registered Piano Technician    </font></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 14px/normal 'Book Antiqua'; color: rgb(62, 0, 147); "><span><b>      </b></span><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; ">(650) 948-9522</span></div></span></div></div></blockquote></div><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 14px/normal 'Book Antiqua'; color: rgb(62, 0, 147); "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; "><br></span></div></span></div></div></div></div></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> </div> <br><div><div>On Jul 4, 2012, at 3:57 AM, Ed Foote wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><font color="black" size="2" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, Serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; ">Gre</span><font class="Apple-style-span" size="2">etings, </font> <div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="2">   It is possible that the tool isn't suited to the job.  In some tight clearance situations, I have had to grind down some metal.  I once had a tool that was a slotted socket on the end of piece of heavy piano wire.  It would go anywhere.  </font></div> <div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="2">   One technique you may try is to trip the jacks while at rest.  This may line up the adjustement screw enough to turn it.   Failing that, I would investigate removing the let-off rails, setting the jacks, and then returning the rails. It is a lot of work for just one or two jacks, but it is less work than breaking off a let-off dowel trying to force the tool where it doesn't want to go. </font></div> <div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="2">Good luck. <br> </font><br> <div style="font-size: 13px; clear: both; "><font color="black" face="arial" size="2">Ed Foote RPT<br> <a href="http://www.piano-tuners.org/edfoote/well_tempered_piano.html">http://www.piano-tuners.org/edfoote/well_tempered_piano.html</a></font></div> <br> <br> <div style="font-family: helvetica, arial; font-size: 10pt; color: black; ">-----Original Message-----<br> From: Marshall Gisondi <<a href="mailto:pianotune05@hotmail.com">pianotune05@hotmail.com</a>><br> To: pianotech <<a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a>><br> Sent: Tue, Jul 3, 2012 10:53 pm<br> Subject: [pianotech] adjusting jack position under knuckle<br> <br> <div id="AOLMsgPart_1_23bd2de3-80d2-46aa-b008-026976da0bd6"> <style>#AOLMsgPart_1_23bd2de3-80d2-46aa-b008-026976da0bd6 td{color: black;} #AOLMsgPart_1_23bd2de3-80d2-46aa-b008-026976da0bd6 .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } #AOLMsgPart_1_23bd2de3-80d2-46aa-b008-026976da0bd6 body.hmmessage { font-size: 10pt; font-family:Tahoma } </style> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="3" face="Arial">Hi Everyone,</font><br> <font size="3" face="Arial">Thanks so much for your ideas on the Kimball key situation.  It turned out fine. The guy was able to get it open, but not sure now he did it.  I'm working on finding a replacement hammer for him.  Fortunately the school has spare parts, and I hope they can find one that will work.  </font><br> <font size="3" face="Arial"></font> <br> <font size="3" face="Arial">Today I went to tune a Bechstein B88 grand.  Grand regulating well all regulating is something I'd love to have more exposure to and additional practice.  In this case two keys when played hard and fast don't repeat, the hammer gets jammed. Repetition lever height is OK.  I'm thinking jack position with the knuckle is off.  So I took the tool and placed it in between the two wood dowels that adjust let off? The problem is once I get the tool in there the rail that the hammer flanges are screwed to, the hamer flange rail? obstructs the process. The tool touches the screw, but the rail keeps me from raising it so tha tI can place it on the screw in order to make the adjustment.  There isn't enough clearence.  Is there something I can do rather than take the wippen out adjust the jack position reapplly it only to have to readjust it again?  I wsh I could draw a picture of what is happening.  The screw, well technically it isn't a screw that adjusts the jack position is so long it is hard to get past when you go inbetween the dowels.  I pull the tool back a little so I can raise it upward so that I can go in and place it on the screw head which in this case feels like a smal blade to a regular screw driver.  The rail prevents me from bringing th e tool high enough.  What are your thoughts?  Thanks and I hope everyone here has a great 4th   </font><br> <font size="3" face="Arial">Marshall</font><br> <font size="3" face="Arial">215-510-9400</font><br> <font size="3" face="Arial"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.phillytuner.com/">http://www.phillytuner.com</a> </font><br> </div> </div>  </div> </div> </font></blockquote></div><br></body></html>