<font color='black' size='2' face='Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'> <div><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Mark</FONT></div> <div> </div> <div>On the one hand I agree that we should not have to put up with Duaine. And I applaud you for offering to be the monitor. But where do we draw the line? There are others on this list who have at one time or another, pissed off other members, or have uttered bad words. What will be the deciding factor? And more importantly, should you be the only one who makes that decision? What if you did ban someone, but others don't' like what you did? Do we ban you then?</div> <div> </div> <div>I think the best thing we can do is ignore this guy, and perhaps block him, if that is what you want to do. But I don't think it s agood idea to "officially" remove him from the list, no matter how dumb, ignorant, obnoxious, or arrogant, he appears to be. </div> <div> </div> <div>Wim</div> <br> <br> <div style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original Message-----<br> From: Mark Purney <mark.purney@mesapiano.com><br> To: pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org><br> Sent: Tue, Jul 24, 2012 5:22 pm<br> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Conventions ( was Pianotech? )<br> <br> <div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff; MARGIN: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; COLOR: #000; FONT-SIZE: 12px" id=AOLMsgPart_0_b19e3e1d-41a5-48ce-9092-5f7c594bacc6><PRE style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt"><TT>John, I will also be blocking Duaine's posts. But we SHOULD NOT have to individually block people to make this a friendly, respectful forum for communicating with each other about piano technology. I have personally asked various members of leadership why we must continue to put up with people like Duaine who continuously show disrespect for others and offer nothing positive to the rest of the community. The answer is that there is no official position of authority to carry this out. There is no moderator, apparently. Nobody wants the job or the responsibility. There is some notion that if one person is removed for bad behavior, then it opens a can of worms, and then we will have the burden of having to be fair about how such things are handled in the future, so that nobody is discriminated against or treated more harshly than some other troublemaker was treated in the past. So the solution is to do nothing? I'm getting tired of nothing being the solution, and seeing people like Duaine insult people who don't deserve to be insulted. I don't care about Duaine's feelings. I care about the feelings of the hundreds of decent people who want a friendly environment to share ideas with each other; people who know how to behave like mature adults. I just don't get it. I've run and moderated a number of forums for various organizations, and it's really easy: If someone is a disrespectful jerk, they get banned. Everyone is happy, life goes on. The next disrespectful jerk to ruin the party for everyone else gets banned, too. Why are we putting up with this crap? Why can't we, in the name of respect and decency, set some reasonable standards of normal human behavior and draw a line? It's time for us to realize that good will, a collaborative spirit, and mutual respect is far too important to let someone like Duaine Hechler crap all over it day after day after day. Nobody wants the job? Give it to me, then. I'll be glad to hit the "Ban" button if nobody else has wants to take the flak for making a decision. On 7/24/2012 7:40 PM, John Formsma wrote: > > > I have been blissfully blocking his posts for at least 2 years now. I > don't really understand why the rest of you haven't done the same. I > bear him no will either, but have better things to do with my time. > > The only time I see his name is when someone responds to him. If we > all blocked his emails, life would be happier. </TT></PRE></div> </div> </font>