<font color='black' size='2' face='Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, Serif'><br> <br> <div style="clear: both; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial" size="2"><br> </font></div> <font class="Apple-style-span" face="Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif" size="2">>></font><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: monospace; font-size: 12px; white-space: pre; ">Will's punching idea sounds good. Some favor the front of the hole on </span> <div style="color: black; "> <div id="AOLMsgPart_0_eb090083-e105-497e-9153-47e2e5bfafa9" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><pre style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; "><tt>placing the new hole, I think, on the theory that the back of the hole takes the beating. But this introduces slop, which starts the whole thing down the guessing game route. Other than Will's idea, which sounds doable, I'll have to chew on this. Other ideas out there? </tt></pre><pre><tt><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif" size="2">Greetings, </font></tt></pre><pre><tt><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif" size="2"> I don't know why, but it seems that most of the oval is caused by pushing the keys distally. This may be from </font></tt></pre><pre><tt><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif" size="2">the fingers, the geometry, or people pushing on the front, or whatever, but it seems that 98% of my repair uses the shim of veneer on the proximal side of the hole. </font></tt></pre><pre><tt><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif" size="2"> I check by moving the key back and forth on the pin and see where it lines up with its neighbors. It is usually clearly in one direction or the other, only occasionally needing shims front and back. </font></tt></pre><pre><tt><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif" size="2">Regards, </font></tt></pre><pre style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; "><tt><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial; font-size: small; white-space: normal; ">Ed Foote RPT<br> http://www.piano-tuners.org/edfoote/well_tempered_piano.html</span></tt></pre> <div style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; "><tt><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial; font-size: small; white-space: normal; "><br> </span></tt></div> </div>  </div> </font>