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color:windowtext'> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Susan Kline<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, July 30, 2012 11:02
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> pianotech@ptg.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [pianotech] NY Times
article on pianos (OT)</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Hi, Bill <br>
<br>
We can agree to disagree about that. Certainly there's plenty of blame to go
around. <br>
<br>
The predatory lending, and the draconian bankruptcy bill which saddles young
people with debt <br>
for their natural lives, and the vicious collection practices (pressuring kids
to <br>
pay their loans before their rent, their utilities, their food, or their
medicine) <br>
seem to be to be far from blameless. And the way they've set up loans so if
graduates <br>
can't make payments, the principal just mounts up and up -- doubling, tripling
-- <br>
"I owe my soul to the company store" comes to mind. <br>
<br>
It all seems very similar to the mortgages banks sold to people who obviously
would <br>
default. They privatize the profit while socializing the risk. <br>
<br>
I'm done with politics, here. Suffice to say that no one newly graduated with <br>
a six-figure debt will be able to study piano tuning, or live on a beginning <br>
tuner's earnings. And that has been going on for decades already. No wonder <br>
routine work isn't getting done.<br>
<br>
It reminds me of places where the cost of real estate and rent gets so high <br>
that the service people (gardeners, window cleaners, day care people, etc.)
can't <br>
afford to live within commuting distance. <br>
<br>
It all feels like endgame to me. If things can't get any more expensive <br>
and complicated and impractical, in the end they will come crashing down. <br>
<br>
Best to keep a wary eye on the basics in our lives -- where does our food, <br>
electricity, fuel, etc. come from, and will it keep coming? Is the division of <br>
labor which we've become totally dependent on really going to go on <br>
forever? Anyone feel like investing in some nice high-paying Spanish <br>
bonds? 25% unemployment in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Spain</st1:place></st1:country-region>
these days. What are they all going to <br>
do? <br>
<br>
Thumpe's right -- gardening is good. Not because it is financially profitable <br>
right now, but because the food is better than store-bought, and growing it <br>
teaches people how to do it successfully, and how to use the produce and <br>
plant the right amounts at the right times. Someday they might really need this
<br>
skill. Plus some plants like fruit trees and berry bushes and nut trees <br>
need time to grow. <br>
<br>
Best, <br>
Susan<br>
</span></font><br>
Bill Fritz wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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changing...<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>However, I would respectfully suggest that Wall
Street is not at fault for the massive Student Loan mess... it is the US Govt,
the Colleges, & the Professors who encouraged students to take on too much
debt at too young an age. I'll also fault the parents, though the
students are by law allowed to make their own decisions, and indeed do so too
willingly.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Easy loan money from the USGovt encourages students
to step up to more expensive colleges, and only encourages the Colleges &
the Professors to raise their rates.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The law of supply & demand... except in this
case, Wall Street had nothing to do w/ it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Best Regards... Bill Fritz, <st1:City
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