<html> <head> <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <blockquote type="cite">And..... if I'm not mistaken, "flag-poling" can also include a pin that twists</blockquote> Yes, Terry, that's exactly what I meant by "But in fact they can to some extent both twist internally," and "The string may move sufficiently to be in tune, but only because the pin has bent or twisted without moving in its pinblock hole" Best regards, David. </body> </html>