<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>But if you are going to flip the piano over and CA from within, please do any tapping in of tuning pins first, as the CA may form a cap over the pins' bottoms which will cause the block to shatter if tapped later.</span></div><div></div><div> </div><div>Euphonious Thumpe<br></div> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <div style="margin: 5px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); height: 0px; line-height: 0; font-size: 0px;" class="hr" contentEditable="false" readonly="true"></div> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> erwinspiano <erwinspiano@aol.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight:
bold;">To:</span></b> pianotech@ptg.org <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, August 24, 2012 11:04 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [pianotech] Second dose of CA?<br> </font> </div> <br>
<div id="yiv51762641"><div>See more ca glue protcol. I said this thread would come up again if I mentioned it.<div>Maybe someday I,ll compile all the archival footage on Ca glue techniques, tools and storys. It may be a best seller. I could do a world book tour, groupies and glu a holics stalking my every move! Yeah.....</div><div>Nahhh. Come on now......I AM smiling.</div><div>Have great no ca glue day</div><div>Dale<br><br><br><br><br><span style="font-size: 100%;">Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1</span> </div><br>Dean May <deanmay@pianorebuilders.com> wrote:<br>Yes, you can often get very good results with a second application. Years<br>ago when CA was starting to be used on pins there were two extremes of<br>application: one used 4 to 8 oz of glue, so much that glue ran everywhere.<br>The other put barely any glue on at all. I find 1 to 2 oz is plenty for most<br>pianos. Do a good soaking on the bushings as I believe that is where most
of<br>the holding power comes from. <br><br>You likely have a piano that had barely any CA put on it, so a second<br>application may be just the ticket. It is cheap and easy to try, so why not?<br>You certainly won't make anything worse. <br><br>If, after treating a few pins, it doesn't look like the CA is penetrating<br>much, you might try drilling a tiny hole at the 6 o'clock position of the<br>pin. Someone posted a protocol on this a few months ago for a second<br>application scenario and said it worked well. You might check the archives,<br>but as I recall you angle the drill so that it penetrates to the pinblock as<br>it comes up to the pin. You are just creating another channel for the CA to<br>travel further into the hole. Sounds like it should work great. <br><br>The flipping the piano upside down and applying from the bottom will also<br>work. Be sure to remove lid and hinges from rim before rolling it over. <br><br>If it is only a few pins
giving you grief, then remove the pin, squirt 6-8<br>drops of CA around the hole, re-insert pin. I have never had that not work.<br><br>Dean<br>Dean W May (812) 235-5272 voice and text <br><a href="http://pianorebuilders.com/" target="_blank" saprocessedanchor="true" original_target="http://pianorebuilders.com">PianoRebuilders.com</a> (888) DEAN-MAY <br>Terre Haute IN 47802<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf<br>Of Paul Mulik<br>Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 8:34 AM<br>To: pianotech@ptg.org<br>Subject: [pianotech] Second dose of CA?<br><br>A school that I tune for has a mid-1970s Kawai grand that's on its last<br>legs. The tuning pins are too loose to hold a tuning, but somebody at some<br>point in the past has already used CA
glue on them. Is there any point in<br>another CA application, or is it a hopeless case at this point? I've<br>already told them there's not a lot I can do for it at this point, but like<br>schools everywhere there's not enough money to spend on extensive repairs or<br>a new piano. <br><br>Paul Mulik<br>Joplin, MO<br>Sent from my U.S. Cellular BlackBerryR smartphone<br><br>-----<br>No virus found in this message.<br>Checked by AVG - <a href="http://www.avg.com/" target="_blank" saprocessedanchor="true" original_target="http://www.avg.com">http://www.avg.com/</a><br>Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5220 - Release Date: 08/23/12<br><br> </div></div><br><br> </div> </div> </div></body></html>