<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">If a bad solenoid blows a board, wouldn't a good design protect the board with a fuse or breaker. Much cheaper than a new board.<div>Or, am I not seeing something?</div><div>John Ross</div><div>Windsor, Nova Scotia<br><div><div><div>On 07-09-2012, at 5:55 PM, Lewis Newman <<a href="mailto:musicbased@yahoo.co.uk">musicbased@yahoo.co.uk</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Hello Steven,</div><div><br></div><div>Yes,fitting piano disc is an emotional roller coaster!</div><div><br></div><div>While I agree with the general consensus that it is a very good system, I personally haven't found the problems to be a rare occurrence at all.</div><div>In fact,I have found there to be on average 1 problem part lurking in each kit. Perhaps we have been particularly unlucky,but a spare kit to use for replacement parts and troubleshooting is essential!</div><div><br></div><div>On the subject of blown driver boards, you may find it useful to know that we have recently been told to check the resistance of all the solenoids before installing them,as a 'bad' solenoid will cause the driver board to blow,and just replacing the driver board and not the problem solenoid will cause the new board(s)to blow too.</div><div><br></div><div>They should be between 10 and 12 ohms.</div><div><br></div><div>I don't really think its our responsibility to individually check all the solenoids tbh.</div><div><br></div><div>My colleague has taken over the fitting of these for the last few months,and I must say I'm enjoying the stress free life!-I quite enjoy watching him walking around holding faulty cpu's and leads with a confused look on his face, while I regulate my piano.</div><div><br></div><div>As a final note, I will say that once you do iron out all the initial problems,they are actually fairly reliable afterwards..</div><div><br></div><div>Good luck,and keep us updated!</div><div><br></div><div>Lewis.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br>Sent from my iPhone </div><div><br>On 7 Sep 2012, at 00:24, Steven Hopp <<a href="mailto:hoppsmusic@hotmail.com">hoppsmusic@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"> <div dir="ltr"> <style></style> <div dir="ltr">To all,<div><br></div><div>I went to Little Red Schoolhouse two years ago and just returned last month from PianoDisc.  </div><div><br></div><div>It has been determined from PD that they sent driver boards that had not been bench tested for their 48 hour requirement.  They sent one new driver board and we tried it on the bass end and it seemed to work fine. Each driver board has a date written on it.  The bad ones were marked 7/12 and the good one I received was 8/12.  I learned about this after the following scenario:</div><div><br></div><div>Installed new driver board and After all the calibration however, the first song play and 1 minute into the song banging keys that were stuck down due to solenoids basically melting in place and taking out groups at a nominal rate as what happened the first time.  Remember at this point I did not know about the date marking I was told I had one bad board.    Also, I have found out that two other poor souls were in the same boat I was (am) and they called in with a similar problem on the same day.</div><div><br></div><div>I don't know how this slipped by but what a crappy way to do a first install.  Truthfully, I will only believe that this is the problem when all is up and running from the replacement of the driver boards.  If it is the problem and they knew it, which apparently they did it is a bad sign for what might be going on there.</div><div><br></div><div>Also, Lewis N suggested new cords early on and he was right.  In fact PD also knows that they have lousy cords and have just contracted to have better quality cords put into their kits.  I will believe that when I see it.</div><div><br></div><div>I still believe this is a good system for clients.  However, my partner and I have decided we will mock as much as possible up on the bench before we put anything in the piano.  I have crawled on the floor over 100 times in the last week and I'm sick of it.  Not to mention the hours and hours of time spent trying to figure out the problem and talking to piano disc and tending to the would I have on my head from scratching the same place in disbelief and wonderment!</div><div><br></div><div>When I am up and running for sure I'll let you all know,</div><div><br></div><div>Steven Hopp RPT</div><div><br><div><div id="SkyDrivePlaceholder"></div>> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 09:50:29 -0500<br>> From: <a href="mailto:rnossaman@cox.net">rnossaman@cox.net</a><br>> To: <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a><br>> Subject: Re: [pianotech] More PianoDisc Help Please<br>> <br>> On 9/5/2012 8:58 AM, Garret E. Traylor wrote:<br>> > Stephen,<br>> > When did you do your training with Yamaha for Discklavier service? In my<br>> > humble opinion you would know these answers you had been to training.<br>> ><br>> > Kindest Regards,<br>> ><br>> > Garret<br>> <br>> <br>> When all else fails, read the header subject. Somehow, I wouldn't expect <br>> Yamaha to be real helpful in teaching PianoDisc service. Overall, this <br>> thread has been one of the better uses I've seen the list put to for <br>> some time.<br>> Ron N<br></div></div></div> </div> </blockquote></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></body></html>