<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"><meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)"><style></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1>Because of the hemispherical pickup pattern of the mic combined with the with nature of the soundboard to amplify most of the band width from most of its surface, almost anywhere on the underside of the lid will provide excellent results – try the approximate middle for starters<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>If you don’t like the mechanical sound of the piano action, move the mic further away. As for mounting, this mic works best when it’s tight against a large backplain (is that a word?), like a piano lid, floor, wall, tabletop.<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>Double sided tape works best, but can be messy to remove and may even mar the lid’s finish if yer not careful - <o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>Radio shack used to have a version of this mic made for them by Crown – they were affordable and worked just fine  - Think they were $49 at the time – I have a couple<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>Crown, Shure and Audio Technica as well as others all have their versions –I think you can find them between less than $200 and up to $500 <o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>Here is the Crown model of which the Radio Shack offering was a cheaper (consumer) version: <a href="http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/PZM30D">http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/PZM30D</a><o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>Here is a popular one from Shure (it’s not really a kick drum mic although it has become a professional go-to mic for that purpose): <a href="http://www.fullcompass.com/product/394859.html">http://www.fullcompass.com/product/394859.html</a><o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>Phil<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'>From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Euphonious Thumpe Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 8:28 PM To: pianotech@ptg.org Subject: Re: [pianotech] mics on soundboard<o:p></o:p></div><o:p> </o:p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><div>And where on the lid, please, Ron? And directly to the lid, or with some felt or something between them; and if so, what type and how thick? (And what brand microphone would you recommend, if you know of one, that is not astronomically expensive, please? And also one that IS astronomically expensive?) Most Respectfully, Thumpe<o:p></o:p></div></td></tr></table><div id="_origMsg_"><div><o:p> </o:p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></div>From: Overs Pianos <<a href="mailto:sec@overspianos.com.au">sec@overspianos.com.au</a>>; To: <<a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a>>; Subject: Re: [pianotech] mics on soundboard Sent: Mon, Sep 10, 2012 10:52:44 PM <o:p></o:p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'>Lim, As others mentioned, those mics are PZM type. Their normal location is on the underside of the lid. If they are placed on the rim they will be 90 degrees off axis to the soundboard. They certainly don't belong on the soundboard, unless you are interested in hearing a phase-changing rendition of what the lid is experiencing. Ron O. > Hi list, > Are these mics properly placed? Will there be noises coming from it? Didnt get a chance to hear as the sound guy only comes in the night. > Thanks! > > lim -- OVERS PIANOS - SYDNEY   Grand Piano Manufacturers _______________________ Web <a href="http://overspianos.com.au" target="_blank">http://overspianos.com.au</a> mailto:<a href="javascript:return">ron@overspianos.com.au</a> _______________________ A web page with images of recent work and almost-audio-CD quality mp3 sound files of the Overs piano can be found at; <a href="http://overspianos.com.au/more_info.htm" target="_blank">http://overspianos.com.au/more_info.htm</a> So put on your headphones, plug them into your freshly restarted computer and sit back to over 20 minutes of pure piano. _______________________<o:p></o:p></td></tr></table></div></div></div>No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - <a href="http://www.avg.com">www.avg.com</a> Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5261 - Release Date: 09/10/12<o:p></o:p></div></body></html>