<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" http-equiv=Content-Type> <META name=GENERATOR content="MSHTML 8.00.6001.19298"> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>How about the one where a plaster wall hasn't seen paint for a number of years.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Usually needs 2 or more coats of "new paint" to get the new color to look like</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>the sample at the paint store, which is what she wanted. ! ! </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Carl / Winnipeg.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" dir=ltr> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=lclgcnp@yahoo.com href="mailto:lclgcnp@yahoo.com">Euphonious Thumpe</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 09, 2012 11:44 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [pianotech] Idea for journal page, (Ed?)</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0> <TBODY> <TR> <TD vAlign=top> <DIV>Al-<BR>I'll first try to explain it logically (regarding the piano "twisting" as increased tension is applied, causing one end to be out of tune again by the time I get to the other ) but the brakes analogy helps them understand that much more work is required in the pitch raise, that's all. <BR><BR>Thumpe</DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> <DIV id=_origMsg_> <DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, sans-serif:font-size:10pt"><BR> <DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT size=2 face=Tahoma> <HR SIZE=1> <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN> </B>Al Guecia/Allied PianoCraft <alliedpianocraft@hotmail.com>; <BR><B><SPAN>To:</SPAN> </B><pianotech@ptg.org>; <BR><B><SPAN>Subject:</SPAN> </B>Re: [pianotech] Idea for journal page, (Ed?) <BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN> </B>Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:52:25 PM <BR></FONT><BR> <TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0> <TBODY> <TR> <TD vAlign=top>(scratching my head) What? <DIV><BR> <DIV><SPAN style="WIDOWS: 2; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; FONT: medium Arial; WHITE-SPACE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; LETTER-SPACING: normal; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); WORD-SPACING: 0px" class=Apple-style-span><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WIDOWS: 2; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FONT-VARIANT: normal; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; WHITE-SPACE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; LETTER-SPACING: normal; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); WORD-SPACING: 0px" class=Apple-style-span> <DIV style="WORD-WRAP: break-word"><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WIDOWS: 2; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FONT-VARIANT: normal; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; WHITE-SPACE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; LETTER-SPACING: normal; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); WORD-SPACING: 0px" class=Apple-style-span> <DIV style="WORD-WRAP: break-word"><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WIDOWS: 2; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FONT-VARIANT: normal; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; WHITE-SPACE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; LETTER-SPACING: normal; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); WORD-SPACING: 0px" class=Apple-style-span> <DIV style="WORD-WRAP: break-word"> <DIV style="FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: medium; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><FONT class=Apple-style-span face="'Lucida Calligraphy'"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18px" class=Apple-style-span><I>Al -</I></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face="'Lucida Calligraphy'"><I>High Point, NC</I></FONT></DIV> <DIV style="FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; FONT-SIZE: medium; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></DIV></DIV></SPAN><BR class=Apple-interchange-newline></DIV></SPAN><BR class=Apple-interchange-newline></DIV></SPAN>On Sep 8, 2012, at 9:11 PM, Euphonious Thumpe wrote:</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><BR class=Apple-interchange-newline> <TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0> <TBODY> <TR> <TD vAlign=top> <DIV>A tuning is to a pitch raise as having your brakes adjusted is to having the pads and rotors replaced, too.<BR></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> <DIV id=_origMsg_> <DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica,"><BR> <DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT size=2 face=Tahoma> <HR SIZE=1> <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN> </B><A href="javascript:return" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:tnrwim@aol.com">tnrwim@aol.com</A> <<A href="javascript:return" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:tnrwim@aol.com">tnrwim@aol.com</A>>; <BR><B><SPAN>To:</SPAN> </B><<A href="javascript:return" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A>>; <BR><B><SPAN>Subject:</SPAN> </B>Re: [pianotech] Idea for journal page, (Ed?) <BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN> </B>Sat, Sep 8, 2012 4:45:27 PM <BR></FONT><BR> <TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0> <TBODY> <TR> <TD vAlign=top><FONT color=black size=2 face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <DIV>Playing an out of tune piano is like reading a text book with spelling mistakes. The child doesn't know there are spellos, but will learn the incorrect spelling of words. Another version: playing a piano that is not regulated correctly is like reading a book with grammar mistakes. </DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV style="CLEAR: both"> <DIV> Wim</DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original Message-----<BR>From: Dale Erwin <<A href="javascript:return" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:erwinspiano@aol.com">erwinspiano@aol.com</A>><BR>To: pianotech <<A href="javascript:return" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A>><BR>Sent: Sat, Sep 8, 2012 4:54 am<BR>Subject: Re: [pianotech] Idea for journal page, (Ed?)<BR><BR> <DIV id=AOLMsgPart_1_2f9bec8e-39ec-42ce-bcb6-053fc2852cf6><FONT color=navy size=2 face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif"><FONT size=2> Hey Ed. </FONT> <DIV><FONT size=2>Love it.... Ed for president!...uh never mind!</FONT> <DIV><FONT size=2>Brilliant idea. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=1><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=1><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=1> Having your child try to learn on a out of regulation piano is like asking them to learn to drive in a 61 VW (or your insert your favorite car) with massive slop a in the steering, worn out brakes and an engine that cuts out when least expected.</FONT><FONT style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold" size=2> </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2> Hey but its just a practice car, I mean piano.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><BR> <DIV style="CLEAR: both"><FONT color=royalblue size=1><B><FONT face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, Serif"><FONT color=black><FONT color=mediumblue face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif">Dale Erwin R.P.T.<BR><FONT color=green>Erwin's Piano Restoration Inc.</FONT><BR></FONT></FONT></FONT></B></FONT><FONT color=darkgreen><SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"><B><FONT size=1><FONT color=black size=1><FONT color=blueviolet><FONT color=black><FONT color=black face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif">Mason & Hamlin</FONT><FONT face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif">/Steinway/</FONT><FONT color=black face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif">U.S. pianos</FONT><FONT face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif"><BR></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT color=cornflowerblue size=1 face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif"><A href="http://www.Erwinspiano.com/" rel=nofollow target=_blank>www.Erwinspiano.com</A></FONT><FONT size=1><BR></FONT><FONT color=crimson size=1 face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif">Phone: 209-577-8397</FONT><BR><FONT color=darkgreen></FONT></FONT></B></SPAN></FONT><TT><TT><FONT color=darkgreen><BR> </FONT><BR>  <FONT size=2></FONT></TT></TT><BR><BR></DIV><BR><BR> <DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original Message-----<BR>From: Ed Foote <<A rel=nofollow>a440a@aol.com</A>><BR>To: pianotech <<A rel=nofollow>pianotech@ptg.org</A>><BR>Sent: Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:44 am<BR>Subject: [pianotech] Idea for journal page, (Ed?)<BR><BR> <DIV id=AOLMsgPart_1_b2112e61-3856-4de9-a740-2c3b48f96471><FONT color=black size=2 face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, Serif"><FONT style="FONT-FAMILY: Georgia," class=Apple-style-span size=2>Greetings,</FONT> <DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Georgia,"><FONT class=Apple-style-span size=2>   Oh how the mind doth wander,drifting into idea-land as the 6th octave marches beneath our tuning hammer.  What wandered into mine this a.m. was an idea for a page in the Journal.  Depending on what our astute Mr. Sutton thinks best, it could be as short or as long as publication imperatives dictate.  It can be broadly based, easily edited and will write itself. </FONT></DIV> <DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Georgia,"><FONT class=Apple-style-span size=2>    I would like to see a compilation of analogies.  Ones that we use in our work, with customers. Among us, I bet there are hundreds of them.    I imagine many of us that use the same ones, but I know there are some effective, off-the-wall explanations I would never have thought of, by myself.  If we compiled all the ones that successfully illustrate to the customer what their piano needs, we could all improve our marketing.</FONT></DIV> <DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Georgia,"><FONT class=Apple-style-span size=2>    They could be grouped by topic, ie,  analogies for pitch raises, another group for regulations, regular tuning, or voicing (a subject which lends itself to all sorts of comparisons; esoteric, esthetic, and otherwise).  Maybe a ground rule or two as we start,  to keep it simple and easy to edit.  Maybe, two lines per analogy, only, and we all agree to steal and be stolen from, plagiarising with impunity. If somebody has to keep their secret weapon secret, don't put it out there. </FONT></DIV> <DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Georgia,"><FONT class=Apple-style-span size=2><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Georgia,"><FONT class=Apple-style-span size=2>  So,  here is two of mine that seem to connect the majority of the time. </FONT></DIV> <DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Georgia,"><FONT class=Apple-style-span size=2>               Inre a pitch raise:  I frame it like trying to turn a rough pasture (their present condition), into a golf green(that velvety smoothness from clean octaves and unisons).  It simply can't be done in one pass.</FONT></DIV> <DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Georgia,"><FONT class=Apple-style-span size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT style="FONT-FAMILY: Georgia," class=Apple-style-span size=2>Inre regulation: Trying to control an out of regulation piano is like trying to drive a car that only has half enough air in the tires.  You can get from one place to another, but not with any control, and it's work instead of fun.  </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT style="FONT-FAMILY: Georgia," class=Apple-style-span size=2>Just a thought...<BR></FONT><BR> <DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Georgia,; CLEAR: both; FONT-SIZE: 13px"><FONT color=black size=2 face=arial>Ed Foote RPT<BR><A href="http://www.piano-tuners.org/edfoote/well_tempered_piano.html" rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://www.piano-tuners.org/edfoote/well_tempered_piano.html</A></FONT></DIV> <DIV style="COLOR: black"> <DIV style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); MARGIN: 0px; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)" id=AOLMsgPart_0_1417492e-7468-4a69-b9aa-8bd0f4f12486><PRE><TT> </TT></PRE></DIV></DIV></DIV></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></FONT></DIV></DIV></FONT></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV><BR></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>