<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><div>Joe--- I suspect that that chap's name (whether or not he existed) was merely "dropped" to imply that this piano was built the STEIN-way. (But perhaps he was also the inventor of the world-renowned, Mezzo-Thermoneal-Stabilizer --- which someone on this list REALLY ought to research the patent on, some of these days!) Thumpe</div></td></tr></table> <div id="_origMsg_"> <div style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif:font-size:10pt"> <div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"> <hr size="1"> From: Paul Williams <pwilliams4@unl.edu>; To: joegarrett@earthlink.net <joegarrett@earthlink.net>; pianotech@ptg.org <pianotech@ptg.org>; Subject: Re: [pianotech] More Wierd - Must be the full moon<G> Sent: Sun, Sep 30, 2012 6:36:04 PM <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td valign="top" style="font:inherit;">Joe, the only thing permanent is change, including glue joints ;>)..  You almost got me with "Vernonia", but  being a born and raised a NW boy, I remembered.  That's one of the very few towns in oregon I've never been to!  Nice pick!  Do you know where Shaniko, OR is?? PW On 9/30/12 11:38 AM, "Joseph Garrett" <<a ymailto="mailto:joegarrett@earthlink.net" href="javascript:return">joegarrett@earthlink.net</a>> wrote: >Terry, >If you believe that, I've got some really great bottom land for you, in >Vernonia Oregon!<G> I've been using epoxies before you could even spell >it.<G> I'm inclined to believe that nothing is "permanent"! >Joe > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Terry Farrell <<a ymailto="mailto:mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com" href="javascript:return">mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com</a>> >> To: <<a ymailto="mailto:joegarrett@earthlink.net" href="javascript:return">joegarrett@earthlink.net</a>>; <<a ymailto="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" href="javascript:return">pianotech@ptg.org</a>> >> Date: 9/30/2012 7:56:23 AM >> Subject: Re: [pianotech] More Wierd - Must be the full moon<G> >> >> Hi Joe, >> >> Well, a picher would have helped, but I guess I've seen enough epoxy >repair to know one when I see it - although I have never seen a failed >one. >A picher really would be nice (or even a picture!). >> >> That is why I prefer to use the two-step epoxy bonding method on any >critical bond. Its basically wet out any/all surfaces you can with >unthickened epoxy (I use West System) and then, if there is any >significant >gap, thicken epoxy with a high density adhesive filler until it is thick >like peanut butter and then slather that in the gap. THAT method will not >fail. >> >> Terry Farrell >> >> On Sep 29, 2012, at 8:10 PM, Joseph Garrett wrote: >> >> > Just got back from tuning a Lowry PSO/POS. While suffering it's >>foibles, >> > two things reared their ugly heads: 1. An epoxy repair I did a few >>years >> > ago, on the bass bridge, seems to be failing! Yikes! After the initial >R&D >> > of the 70's epoxies, I've pretty much been failure free. Almost to the >> > point of considering an epoxy repair as "permanent"! Definately a rude >> > awakening.<G> >> > 2. I've seen this in many POS/PSO pianos: "Scaled by Charles Frederich >> > Stein". And, looking farther, I find: "High Impact Action designed for >> > Lowry by Charles Frederich Stein". Hmmm? The question is this: Was >Charles >> > Frederich Stein ever associated with any good piano companies? Most, >that >> > I've seen, are mediocre at best. Just kind of wondering about how he >became >> > a "notable" designer and who he really was. Anyone know? >> > As for the epoxy thang, it's back to doing again. Terry, pay attention >> > buddy<G> Just ribbin' ya. And, NO, there are no Pichers@!<G> >> > Best, >> > Joe >> > >> > >> > Joe Garrett, R.P.T. >> > Captain of the Tool Police >> > Squares R I >> > > > </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> </div> </div> </div>