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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Termites or Carpenter Ants? Since pianos
from Hawaii and termite damage was brought up, thought I'd share some pics with
you. Just replaced the bottom board of this piano just 2 weeks
ago. Had ant (or termite) damage back in 2004 and the piano did come from
Hawaii. I'm thinking I saw something in the tecnician's notes about an ant
colony that was exterminated in 2004. I service Ft. Leonard Wood, Mo. and
this was from a military family who must have been stationed in Hawaii at
some point.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Anyway, I'm really not sure how they used the
piano from then til now, but the pedals were sure in unuseable
condition when I found them. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Tilted on it's back, and the bottom board off,
there was no evidence of damage in the main case at all, only the bottom
board. Why, don't know, but I guess they were very lucky. I
inspected the entire piano and saw no evidence of them anywhere else and the
piano tuned very well. Boy was I glad. Those critters can sure
do alot of damage in a short amount of time! If the damage had been more
extensive, I'd likely walked away from the job, but it looked pretty
contained.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>The pics are in no order, and some who like to look
at things really close will be bothered by the fact that in the tilted picture
the pedals don't look right, that's because they weren't hooked up
yet. Same with one of the pics on the table saw.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Always interesting things to find in this
profession. Keeps life exciting!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Richard W. Bushey<BR>Richard's Piano Service<BR><A
href="http://www.RichardsPianoService.com">www.RichardsPianoService.com</A><BR><A
href="mailto:Rbushey@RichardsPianoService.com">Rbushey@RichardsPianoService.com</A><BR>573-765-9903</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=pwilliams4@unl.edu href="mailto:pwilliams4@unl.edu">Paul Williams</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 26, 2012 5:14
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [pianotech] Opinion on
Termite Damaged Piano Requested</DIV>
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<DIV>Open one can of worms…then 10 others rear their heads! Sounds like
Halloowweeeeenn! Be very careful on this one, buddy! Really a
keyframe? Sounds pretty scary! </DIV>
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<DIV>Maybe or maybe not. I guess a visit first is in order. It might be worth
the visit to like or take the job, or run run as fast as you can. You
never know. Never take a job on over the phone DAMHIK!!!!</DIV>
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<DIV>To Wim, I would say run away from it. Termites are damage.
They go into everything! Can't even see the extra damage yet until you
pull the plate, etc. You should know by now in the land we all like to
vacation in! Ahhhh….Hawaii! For the next 6 months, I would love to be
there…..Winter's coming in soon buddy! Celebrating 37 today as a high
temp! Have to put my Keen's away for the winter and I hate that!</DIV>
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<DIV>Paul</DIV>
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From: </SPAN>Terry Farrell <<A
href="mailto:mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com">mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com</A>><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Reply-To: </SPAN>"<A
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A>" <<A
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A>><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Date: </SPAN>Friday, October 26, 2012 5:00
PM<BR><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To: </SPAN>"<A
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A>" <<A
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A>><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject: </SPAN>Re: [pianotech] Opinion on Termite
Damaged Piano Requested<BR></DIV>
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style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space">This
isn't my piano - but rather a potential client's who may have me do a belly
job on it. He is aware that the keyframe is all chewed up. He has made
arrangements for a new keyframe (<FONT class=Apple-style-span
color=#ff0018>AHHH!!!</FONT>).
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<DIV>One thing I do know is that there CAN be major problems. Like a Knabe 6'
(or so) grand that I used to service at a hospital. I told them the thing was
termite infested. But they didn't do anything about it until one morning when
they came to work and found the piano down on the floor (as in not on its
legs). The termites had eaten the keybed and the legs broke off.</DIV>
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<DIV>Terry Farrell</DIV>
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<DIV>On Oct 26, 2012, at 5:04 PM, <A
href="mailto:tnrwim@aol.com">tnrwim@aol.com</A> wrote:</DIV><BR
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<DIV>Terry<BR><BR>How much are you going to in the rebuilding process?
I recently rebuilt a Baldwin F because it was in a fire. But it also
had considerable termite damage, especially on the action frame. So be sure
to pull the action and check for termite damage, (remove the stack and take
off the keys). Other than that you shouldn't have any
problems<BR><BR>Wim<BR><BR>Sent from my iPhone<BR><BR>On Oct 26, 2012, at
10:47 AM, Terry Farrell <<A
href="mailto:mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com">mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com</A>>
wrote:<BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">I'm looking for some opinions on the wisdom of
rebuilding a 9' Knabe concert grand that has some termite damage. A client
of mine owns the piano. I have my own opinion. I'm just wondering what
others experience may have taught them.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">There appears to be relatively minor damage in
several areas of the piano: rim braces, rim, keybed, etc. One can find
only one or two smallish galleries in these areas.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">IMHO, one would have to pretty much destroy much
of the piano to be sure about how much damage there might
be.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Presumably the termite activity is not active. The
piano was shipped to a fumagation facility and it was gassed in their
fumagation chamber. Then the piano was moved back to the home and then the
entire home was tented and fumagated. So, I can only assume that if
fumagation does indeed work, any termites that were in there are all
dead.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Thoughts?<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Thanks.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Terry
Farrell<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></SPAN>
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