The only right answer is to now your knee to the king of all creation. Your a creature, u live in a creation, there is a creator. Duh! U get it? Use more of your brain than the size of a pizza. Get it? Pizza. That's a play on food. <div class="gmail_quote">On Oct 27, 2012 2:52 PM, "Jim Ialeggio" <<a href="mailto:jim@grandpianosolutions.com">jim@grandpianosolutions.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Those of you who abuse plates, that is grind off duplexes, or what have you, how do you get in close to either the struts or in tight sections without resorting to a file and bloody knuckles? I have 4" angle grinder which does most of the damage pretty quickly. Then I often try to switch to a 1/4" die grinder, but that really doesn't cut the mustard, at least not the way I'm set up with it. The die grinder only uses "surface prep" wheels which are not aggressive enough, even the 36 grit, to take down serious metal. Any other approaches to the tight spots? Are there tiny grinding wheels for a die grinder, as opposed to the tiny dremel cutoff wheels which are not terribly useful in this particular application either? Jim Ialeggio -- Jim Ialeggio <a href="mailto:jim@grandpianosolutions.com" target="_blank">jim@grandpianosolutions.com</a> <a href="tel:978%20425-9026" value="+19784259026" target="_blank">978 425-9026</a> Shirley Center, MA </blockquote></div>