<div style="color: navy; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS', sans-serif; clear: both;"> <tt style="font-size: 10pt;"><tt>     </tt></tt> </div>   Dave and all   Having done my own key work in the past, I found its a job I despise and loose lots of money at. If you like doing this job then one should knock themselves out and whistle a happy tune. But if like me you don't enjoy the gnashing of teeth, consider sending them out. I mean for under $300 an impeccable looking key set can be had from many vendors. Yvonne Ashmore (Grass Valley),  <div> Ron Kneale(does work for Yam.) and others etc. <div style="color: black; font-family: arial, helvetica;"> <div id="AOLMsgPart_1_45c5d82a-e5ec-4c07-8b22-7225f07c25d6"> <div>  So FWIW... ..Why not send the keys out? For me recovering keys is a money loosing proposition. I can tune & service three pianos in a day make at least 600 bucks. I can give half to the key guy and get a really nice job... instead of an 8 hour exercise in frustration.  Just my usually biased opinion....!!</div> <div> </div> <div>D. <div style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS', sans-serif; clear: both;">Dale Erwin R.P.T. Erwin's Piano Restoration Inc. Mason & Hamlin/Steinway/U.S. pianos <a href="http://www.Erwinspiano.com" target="_blank">www.Erwinspiano.com</a> Phone: 209-577-8397 <tt><tt>     </tt></tt> </div> <div style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: arial, helvetica;">-----Original Message----- From: David Love <<a href="mailto:davidlovepianos@comcast.net">davidlovepianos@comcast.net</a>> To: pianotech <<a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a>> Sent: Thu, Dec 6, 2012 7:07 pm Subject: Re: [pianotech] wagner safety planer drill speed <div id="AOLMsgPart_0_cc0bf35c-42f2-4075-aadd-0ed7499445a4" style="margin: 0px;font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif;font-size: 12px;color: #000;background-color: #fff;"> <pre style="font-size: 9pt;"><tt>I currently use a router system but I'm not thrilled with either the noise or the clamping system. Considering alternatives. I actually have (somewhere in the shop) and old Wagner planer. What kind of sled system do you use to clamp and direct the keytop through the planer? David Love <a target="_blank" href="http://www.davidlovepianos.com">www.davidlovepianos.com</a> -----Original Message----- From: <a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a> [<a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org?">mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a>] On Behalf Of Paul McCloud Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 4:43 PM To: <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a> Subject: Re: [pianotech] wagner safety planer drill speed Hi, David: If you haven't seen one of these up close, when you do you'll be amazed how it's designed. The cutters are mounted with screws to the body of the planer, and they are round. Sharpening is done with a special wheel, which (should be) included. The cutters are about a inch in diameter, and you would have to grind away the whole thing before you'd be able to wear it out. I've used mine for many years, and it works well. Though it's a "Safety Planer", you still have to respect it. Even so, I've nicked myself with it, but didn't do too much damage. It's a good design. Doing keytops with it still requires some careful setup, but you knew that already. Paul McCloud San Diego ----- Original Message ----- From: <a href="mailto:chrisstor@aol.com">chrisstor@aol.com</a> To: <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a> Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 3:46:17 PM Subject: [pianotech] wagner safety planer drill speed David, With respect to your question on drill speed, my operator's manual says the following in one place: "Use in accordance with instructions. Maximum speed is 6000rpm." Then in another location is says: "Set the drill press belt for a high speed, but not over 5000 rpm." With respect to your question regarding life of the tool, the manual says: "Cutting action remains the same after sharpening hundreds of times." I've sharpened mine once so far, so I can't tell you how long hundreds of sharpenings is going to last you. There are photocopies of the manual at this website: <a target="_blank" href="http://s237.beta.photobucket.com/user/Chipncut/media/Wagner%20Safe-T-Planer%20Manual/44879e0d.jpg.html?sort=3&o=1">http://s237.beta.photobucket.com/user/Chipncut/media/Wagner%20Safe-T-Planer%20Manual/44879e0d.jpg.html?sort=3&o=1</a> Chris S. </tt></pre> </div> </div> </div> </div>  </div> </div>