<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"><meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)"><style></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1>I’ve been using TB Trim and Molding glue for years now for hammers.  I don’t find any downside to it.  Joe, what do you mean about “chasing voicing”.  It removes easily with a bit of heat.  Forms  nice collar, does everything it’s supposed to do, IMO.  <o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>Hide glue for felt, leather etc. is good but for gluing on hammers, I find it’s less trustworthy unless you are very careful about the proper viscosity, has limited working time.  I find more loose hammers from hide glue than from  TB Trim glue by far.  <o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>I do like Bolduc’s glue for soundboards and bridge caps.  <o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>David Love<o:p></o:p>www.davidlovepianos.com<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'>From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Dale Erwin Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 9:07 PM To: joegarrett@earthlink.net; pianotech@ptg.org Subject: Re: [pianotech] Trim & Moulding Glue<o:p></o:p></div><o:p> </o:p> Hi Joe <o:p></o:p><div>  I've been using tightbond 50 for over  a year now for many, many applications and it dries hard as hide glue, has a good set up time & gap fills if needed. Very strong stuff. Its only available in 5 gal buckets so I buy it and sell it in quarts if any care to give it a test drive. <o:p></o:p></div><div>  I glue on hammers, use it in all wood work, including bridge cap and it does not gum up in the bridge pin bits. Glue up soundboard panels, glue ribs to panels & finished board to the rim/rasten. Glue up our pinblocks too all with great success. I can't find a down side. I don't recommend it for other action work though and  as you are found of saying.... Hide glue for felt and leather work please!.<o:p></o:p><div>Dale Erwin R.P.T. Erwin's Piano Restoration Inc. Mason & Hamlin/Steinway/U.S. pianos <a href="http://www.Erwinspiano.com">www.Erwinspiano.com</a> Phone: 209-577-8397 <tt> </tt> <tt>  </tt><o:p></o:p></div><o:p> </o:p><div>-----Original Message----- From: Joseph Garrett <<a href="mailto:joegarrett@earthlink.net">joegarrett@earthlink.net</a>> To: pianotech <<a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a>> Sent: Sun, Dec 9, 2012 6:00 pm Subject: [pianotech] Trim & Moulding Glue<o:p></o:p><div id="AOLMsgPart_0_bb45b887-4ffb-484c-b59a-f7e3acaf4c5a"><pre style='background:white'><tt>I finally found a good use for this stuff: it is good for making leather<o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>case buttons. No, I don't use it for hammers. (not unless I like chasing<o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>voicing for a year or two.<G>) As most know, I prefer Hide Glue for most<o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>work, but I do use many other glues, just not for action work. My rule is:<o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>if it needs to be taken apart, sometime, then hide glue is the choice.<o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>Otherwise, if it needs to be "forever" then my glue of choice, these days,<o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>is Tite Bond III. I still use Tite Bond. Never did like the T.B. II. It<o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>left the fingers yellow and had a really short working time. (I've been<o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>told that the Tite Bond II Extended is better in that regard. However, it's<o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>hard to find. Haven't tried it, because TB III is better, imo. <o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>Well, I digress. The Trim & Moulding Glue container went back to the old<o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>bottle tip. No clue why. I asked Franklin, but they did not reply to the<o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>question, just sent me a wad  of those tips! Good Company, fer sure. I have<o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>a Love/Hate relationship with their bottle tips, (both). Wish they'd come<o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>up with one like Borden's has on their School glue bottles. It's what I use<o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>in my tuning kit. It's small, stays sealed and can be used to "pressure"<o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>glue into cracks w/o plugging/closing. <o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>Best,<o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>Joe<o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><o:p> </o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><o:p> </o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>Joe Garrett, R.P.T.<o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>Captain of the Tool Police<o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt>Squares R I<o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><o:p> </o:p></tt></pre></div></div></div></div></body></html>