<font color='navy' size='2' face='Comic Sans MS, sans-serif'><font color="#000080" face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif" size="2">Joe</font> <div><font color="#000080" face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif" size="2">  Its the real deal. I spent time on </font><font color="#000080" face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif">the</font><font color="#000080" face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif" size="2"> phone with the Tight bond glue company expert. His name is Barry. Barry has 25 years expereince with glues of all kinds. A very helpful chap</font><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: 'Comic Sans MS', sans-serif; font-size: small;"> and after detailing our type of work and glue needs he </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: 'Comic Sans MS', sans-serif; font-size: small;">recommend</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: 'Comic Sans MS', sans-serif; font-size: small;"> this particular industrial grade of Tite bond.  It is also radio frequency curable. You can go to the tite bond web site and look at the specs your self.</span></div> <div><font color="#000080" face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif" size="2"> All these aliphatic resins start out out as poly vinyl acetates and then they are altered to give them different properties. From school glue to Elmers, Bolduc or tite bond 3. It doesn't matter. All pva.s They are only yellow because they add color to it. Tite bond 50 is creamy colored and not as yellow as the stuff sold in the hardware store.</font></div> <div><font color="#000080" face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif" size="2">I started my search to replace the Bolduc glue As it was overpriced IMO. That glue we could find out nothing specific about, not</font><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: 'Comic Sans MS', sans-serif; font-size: small;"> where it was made or if it was </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: 'Comic Sans MS', sans-serif; font-size: small;">freeze</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: 'Comic Sans MS', sans-serif; font-size: small;"> stable(its not). I was </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: 'Comic Sans MS', sans-serif; font-size: small;">just</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: 'Comic Sans MS', sans-serif; font-size: small;"> as </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: 'Comic Sans MS', sans-serif; font-size: small;">skeptical</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: 'Comic Sans MS', sans-serif; font-size: small;"> as you are now but the </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: 'Comic Sans MS', sans-serif; font-size: small;">Proof</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: 'Comic Sans MS', sans-serif; font-size: small;"> of the puddin is in the eatin.</span></div> <div><font color="#000080" face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif" size="2">Dale<br> </font><br> <div style="color: navy; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS', sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; clear: both;"><font size="1" color="royalblue"><b><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, Serif"><font color="black"><font color="mediumblue" face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif">Dale Erwin R.P.T.<br> <font color="green">Erwin's Piano Restoration Inc.</font></font></font></font></b></font><font color="darkgreen"><span style="font-style: italic;"><b><font size="1"><br> </font></b></span></font><tt><tt><br> </tt></tt></div> <div style="color: black; font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 10pt;"> <div id="AOLMsgPart_1_1e2791e9-988e-4701-9bf0-9c543fd8f3e3"><blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><font size="2"> <div> <div><font size="2" face="MS Sans Serif">Dale,</font></div> <div><font size="2" face="MS Sans Serif">Hmmmm? And where prey tell, does this stuff come from. And, what are it's properties? Do you have a "sheet" on this stuff? Is it similar to T.B. III? How much for a gal of this magic gook?  I can't tell you how many times this has occured and I wind up with a bucket of stuff that I can't use for putting boogers together, let alone anything worthwhile. So, Pleas fill me in, my friend.</font></div> <div><font size="2" face="MS Sans Serif">Joe</font></div> <div> </div> <div></div> </div> <div> </div> <blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"> <div style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message ----- </div> <div style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a title="erwinspiano@aol.com" href="mailto:erwinspiano@aol.com">Dale Erwin</a> </div> <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To: </b><a title="joegarrett@earthlink.net" href="mailto:joegarrett@earthlink.net">joegarrett@earthlink.net</a>;<a title="pianotech@ptg.org" href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a></div> <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> 12/9/2012 9:06:53 PM </div> <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [pianotech] Trim & Moulding Glue</div> <div><br> </div> <font size="2"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif"><font color="#000080" size="2" face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif"> Hi Joe</font> <div><font color="#000080" size="2" face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif">  I've been using tightbond 50 for over  a year now for many, many applications and it dries hard as hide glue, has a good set up time & gap fills if needed. Very strong stuff. Its only available in 5 gal buckets so I buy it and <i><u>sell it in quarts </u></i>if any care to give it a test drive. </font></div> <div><font color="#000080" size="2" face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif">  I glue on hammers, use it in all wood work, including bridge cap and it<u> does not gum up in the </u></font><font color="#000080" face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif"><u>bridge</u></font><font color="#000080" size="2" face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif"><u> pin bits. </u>Glue up soundboard panels, glue ribs to panels & finished board to the rim/rasten. Glue up our pinblocks too all with great success. I can't find a down side. I don't recommend it for other action work though and  as you are found of saying.... Hide glue for felt and leather work please!.</font><br> <br> <div style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS', sans-serif; COLOR: navy; CLEAR: both; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><font color="royalblue" size="1"><b><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, Serif"><font color="black"><font color="mediumblue" face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif">Dale Erwin R.P.T.<br> <font color="green">Erwin's Piano Restoration Inc.</font><br> </font></font></font></b></font><font color="darkgreen"><span style="FONT-STYLE: italic"><b><font size="1"><font color="black" size="1"><font color="blueviolet"><font color="black"><font color="black" face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif">Mason & Hamlin</font><font face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif">/Steinway/</font><font color="black" face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif">U.S. pianos</font><font face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif"><br> </font></font></font></font><font color="cornflowerblue" size="1" face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif"><a href="http://www.Erwinspiano.com" target="_blank">www.Erwinspiano.com</a></font><font size="1"><br> </font><font color="crimson" size="1" face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif">Phone: 209-577-8397</font><br> <font></font></font></b></span></font><tt><tt><font color="darkgreen"><br>  </font><br>   <font size="2"></font></tt></tt><br> <br> </div> <br> <br> <div style="FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original Message-----<br> From: Joseph Garrett <<a href="mailto:joegarrett@earthlink.net">joegarrett@earthlink.net</a>><br> To: pianotech <<a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a>><br> Sent: Sun, Dec 9, 2012 6:00 pm<br> Subject: [pianotech] Trim & Moulding Glue<br> <br> <div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff; MARGIN: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; COLOR: #000; FONT-SIZE: 12px" id="AOLMsgPart_0_bb45b887-4ffb-484c-b59a-f7e3acaf4c5a"><pre style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt"><tt>I finally found a good use for this stuff: it is good for making leather case buttons. No, I don't use it for hammers. (not unless I like chasing voicing for a year or two.<G>) As most know, I prefer Hide Glue for most work, but I do use many other glues, just not for action work. My rule is: if it needs to be taken apart, sometime, then hide glue is the choice. Otherwise, if it needs to be "forever" then my glue of choice, these days, is Tite Bond III. I still use Tite Bond. Never did like the T.B. II. It left the fingers yellow and had a really short working time. (I've been told that the Tite Bond II Extended is better in that regard. However, it's hard to find. Haven't tried it, because TB III is better, imo. Well, I digress. The Trim & Moulding Glue container went back to the old bottle tip. No clue why. I asked Franklin, but they did not reply to the question, just sent me a wad of those tips! Good Company, fer sure. I have a Love/Hate relationship with their bottle tips, (both). Wish they'd come up with one like Borden's has on their School glue bottles. It's what I use in my tuning kit. It's small, stays sealed and can be used to "pressure" glue into cracks w/o plugging/closing. Best, Joe Joe Garrett, R.P.T. Captain of the Tool Police Squares R I </tt></pre></div> </div> </div> </font></font></blockquote></font></blockquote> </div>  </div> </div> </font>