HeyJoe, Musical notes interspersed....where you going with that gun in your hand....ha-aye Joe.  oops wrong list. <div>  <div>  I think Dave was referring to the tonal character of the tone. I like Tri-chord unisons on some pianos when they are made well...and when they're not?.....uhhh... Not so much.  <div style="color: navy; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS', sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; clear: both;">Dale Erwin R.P.T. Erwin's Piano Restoration Inc. Mason & Hamlin/Steinway/U.S. pianos www.Erwinspiano.com Phone: 209-577-8397 <tt><tt>     </tt></tt> </div> <div style="color: black; font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 10pt;">-----Original Message----- From: David Love <davidlovepianos@comcast.net> To: pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Thu, Dec 13, 2012 7:28 am Subject: Re: [pianotech] GH-1s <div id="AOLMsgPart_1_2370c8cf-42ed-46b2-9ccc-5cadc2022f4e"> <div class="WordSection1"> <div class="MsoNormal">I’ve done the D both ways (in fact the Hamburg scale uses bichords), but a few years ago I redid a Steinway O with a semi transition and had Delacour rescale it for me and he produced a set of trichords wrapped for a section and it sounded great.  No problems.  We discussed the issue of bi versus tri and he convinced me that the tri would sound better.  Having had done this on another piano with bichords I agreed with him.</div> <div class="MsoNormal"> </div> <div class="MsoNormal">David Love</div> <div class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.davidlovepianos.com" target="_blank">www.davidlovepianos.com</a></div> <div class="MsoNormal"> </div> <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"> <div class="MsoNormal">From: <a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a> [<a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org?">mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a>] On Behalf Of Dale Erwin Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 6:18 AM To: <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a> Subject: Re: [pianotech] GH-1s</div> </div> <div class="MsoNormal"> </div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Like STeinway Ds for example.  Uh oh...here we go again. ;)</div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Dale Erwin R.P.T. Erwin's Piano Restoration Inc. Mason & Hamlin/Steinway/U.S. pianos <a target="_blank" href="http://www.Erwinspiano.com">www.Erwinspiano.com</a> Phone: 209-577-8397 <tt> </tt> <tt>  </tt></div> </div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">-----Original Message----- From: David Love <<a href="mailto:davidlovepianos@comcast.net">davidlovepianos@comcast.net</a>> To: pianotech <<a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a>> Sent: Wed, Dec 12, 2012 7:54 pm Subject: Re: [pianotech] GH-1s</div> <div id="AOLMsgPart_0_b3c1ac07-7159-44a0-85dd-a8f4772c9e19"><pre style="background:white"><tt>I prefer bi-chords to trichords as well but sometimes the windings get so</tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt>small relative to the core that it's better to go with tri-chord wrapped.</tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt>You need a good string maker, of course.  I know a lot of people reject</tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt>trichord wrapped strings but I find that there is sometimes a place for</tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt>them.  </tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt> </tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt>David Love</tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt><a target="_blank" href="http://www.davidlovepianos.com">www.davidlovepianos.com</a></tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt> </tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt> </tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt>-----Original Message-----</tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt>From: <a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a> [<a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org?">mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a>] On Behalf</tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt>Of Joseph Garrett</tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt>Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 6:46 PM</tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt>To: pianotech</tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt>Subject: Re: [pianotech] GH-1s</tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt> </tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt>David Love asked:</tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt>"I presume you changed those to wrapped strings or something without</tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt>changing the bridge. Did you use wrapped bichords or trichords, if you</tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt>recall."</tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt> </tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt>David,</tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt>You presume correctly. Wound Bi-chords. It is necessary to add 3 hitch pins,</tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt>equi-spaced, to make it work.<G> It's not the very best, but it does make</tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt>the piano resonably tunable and stable in that area. Of course, ya have to</tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt>warn the client that you'll be, somewhat, living with their piano, forever,</tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt>until the strings stabilize. Another issue is that the piano will really go</tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt>whacko, pitch-wise, when you remove the lower bass strings to do the install</tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt>of the hitch pins and strings! Be aware of it and it won't freak you out</tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt>...too much.<G> Once the strings are on and the lower bass strings have been</tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt>re-installed and then tuned, it goes pretty much right back to were it was</tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt>before you started.</tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt>BTW, I try to avoid wound tri-chords if at all possible.<G> Best, Joe</tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt> </tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt> </tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt>Joe Garrett, R.P.T.</tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt>Captain of the Tool Police</tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt>Squares R I</tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt> </tt></pre></div> </div> </div> </div>  </div> </div> </div>