<font color='navy' size='2' face='Comic Sans MS, sans-serif'><font color="#000080" face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif" size="2">By the way for what its worth, String makers will tell you certain thing based on there on bias and method of calculating in tensions. IE. For a while I had a well known string maker make tri-chords for 3 wrapped unison for the Stwy B break. (on the original bridge) It was an improvement but I wanted bi-chords but was told that it couldn't be done. </font> <div><font color="#000080" face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif" size="2">  Well turns out I didn't like the tri-chords so much. SO I asked another maker if they could make the bi-chord and they said sure no problem. SO as it turns out, for my ear, its a good remedy when not adding a transition bridge, </font><font color="#000080" face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif" size="2"> and less invasive to the original design than lopping off the bridge. Some folks like the original thing.</font></div> <div><font color="#000080" face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif" size="2">  I only add 3unisons of bichord and its a much better sounding break than original....and more musical than the tri-chords. The tri-chords developed false beats after a while and some broke. ughh how I hate that.</font><br> <br> <div style="color: navy; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS', sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; clear: both;"><font size="1" color="royalblue"><b><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, Serif"><font color="black"><font color="mediumblue" face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif">Dale Erwin R.P.T.<br> <font color="green">Erwin's Piano Restoration Inc.</font><br> </font></font></font></b></font><font color="darkgreen"><span style="font-style: italic;"><b><font size="1"><font size="1" color="black"><font color="blueviolet"><font color="black"> <font color="black" face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif">Mason & Hamlin</font><font face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif">/Steinway/</font><font color="black" face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif">U.S. pianos</font><font face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif"><br> </font></font></font></font><font size="1" color="cornflowerblue" face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif">www.Erwinspiano.com</font><font size="1"><br> </font><font size="1" color="crimson" face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif">Phone: 209-577-8397</font><br> <font color="darkgreen"></font></font></b></span></font><tt><tt><font color="darkgreen"><br>  </font><br>   <font size="2"></font></tt></tt><br> <br> </div> <br> <br> <div style="color: black; font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 10pt;">-----Original Message-----<br> From: Dale Erwin <erwinspiano@aol.com><br> To: pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org><br> Sent: Fri, Dec 14, 2012 7:05 am<br> Subject: Re: [pianotech] GH-1s, etc.<br> <br> <div id="AOLMsgPart_1_799d8345-2eb6-446d-8749-eb31f45d0279"> <font color="navy" size="2" face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif"> <div style="font-family: arial, helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> So, as you are fond of saying, that's my story and sticking to it. <u><i><b>So stuff that trout in your sack and smoke it--a little Oregon humor there.</b></i></u></div> <div style="font-family: arial, helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">David Love</span></div> <div style="font-family: arial, helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br> </div> <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif">Now you've got to admit thats funny Joe.;)</font></div> <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif">Dale</font></div> <br> <div style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS', sans-serif; clear: both;"><font size="1" color="royalblue"><b><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, Serif"><font color="black"><font color="mediumblue" face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif">Dale Erwin R.P.T.<br> </font></font></font></b></font><font color="darkgreen"><span style="font-style: italic;"><b><font size="1"><font size="1" color="cornflowerblue" face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif"><a href="http://www.Erwinspiano.com" target="_blank">www.Erwinspiano.com</a></font><font size="1"><br> </font><font size="1" color="crimson" face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif">Phone: 209-577-8397</font><br> <font color="darkgreen"></font></font></b></span></font><tt><tt><font color="darkgreen"><br>  </font><br>   <font size="2"></font></tt></tt><br> <br> </div> <br> <br> <div style="font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: black;">-----Original Message-----<br> From: David Love <<a href="mailto:davidlovepianos@comcast.net">davidlovepianos@comcast.net</a>><br> To: pianotech <<a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a>><br> Sent: Thu, Dec 13, 2012 9:11 pm<br> Subject: Re: [pianotech] GH-1s, etc.<br> <br> <div id="AOLMsgPart_1_cf6c9981-46bd-4838-8b1e-fdcf149b2185"> <div> <div>There are other issues as well related to unison tension and break point percentage. At any rate, not much point in debating this as I now defer to those with more experience in this area than I do. I have done some scaling but usually run the scale by the string winder who invariably tells me why I shouldn't do something.  My main point was that there seems to be an appropriate use for wrapped trichords in certain situations. Having at least one side by side experience I would attest to that. So, as you are fond of saying, that's my story and sticking to it. So stuff that trout in your sack and smoke it--a little Oregon humor there.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>David Love</div> <div><a target="_blank" href="http://www.davidlovepianos.com">www.davidlovepianos.com</a></div> <div>415.407.8320</div> <div><br> </div> </div> <br> <br> David Love <<a href="mailto:davidlovepianos@comcast.net">davidlovepianos@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br> <br> <div> <div>The core would be but not necessarily the wrap.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>David Love</div> <div><a target="_blank" href="http://www.davidlovepianos.com">www.davidlovepianos.com</a></div> <div>415.407.8320</div> <div><br> </div> </div> <br> <br> Joseph Garrett <<a href="mailto:joegarrett@earthlink.net">joegarrett@earthlink.net</a>> wrote:<br> <br> David said:<br> "I was referring to how thin the copper needs to be. Depending on various<br> factors and targets, sometimes bichords end up pushing the copper down to<br> something much thinner than string winders are comfortable working with." <br> <br> David,<br> I understand that. However, if you were scaling for 3 string wound, the<br> wire core and wrap would be even smaller than with the bichords of the same<br> mass per note. Trichords solve little, imo..<br> Joe<br> <br> <br> Joe Garrett, R.P.T.<br> Captain of the Tool Police<br> Squares R I<br> <br> </div> </div> </font> </div>  </div> </div> </font>