<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><div>Well, gee, guitar, violin and etc. string makers make wound strings with wire sizes that small....... But I suppose it would be a stretch to ask them to "custom up" some for a piano. (And likely too long for their lathes.)<br /><br />Thumpe</div></td></tr></table> <div id="_origMsg_">
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<td valign="top" style="font:inherit;"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'>Yeah, like I said, I leave all these string making decisions to others now. I have enough headaches. </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'> </span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'>David Love</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'>www.davidlovepianos.com</span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;'> </span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;'><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", "sans-serif";'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", "sans-serif";'> Joseph Garrett [mailto:joegarrett@earthlink.net] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:15 PM<br><b>To:</b> David Love; pianotech<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [pianotech] GH-1s, etc.</span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS Sans Serif", "serif";'>David,</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS Sans Serif", "serif";'>Most string makers have a limit for core.. that is usually around .037". Some will go to .035", but few will, willingly go that small. So, the only answer to the small overall cross section of a specific note/wire is to go real small with the copper. This makes string makers break out in a cold sweat, tbs.<G> In order to get a Trichord of correct
proportional size and decent inharmonicity, with consistancy, the copper needs to be workable. There is the rub. They just can't make a Trichord small enough w/o manufacturing problems. Hence, I choose not to put them through that, if it is possible to get the same musical/ tonal results with bigger Bichords on the same note. It's a job, I know how to do, but I choose to let someone else do it..<G> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS Sans Serif", "serif";'>The string size for E32 was .033" core and .055" wrap. That takes a highly skilled string maker on those sizes! It's above the call of duty imo.<G> Fortunately the strings are short enough that there will not be excessive deflection while winding, (so I've been told). </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS Sans Serif", "serif";'>Then, to add to the mix, the
strings needed to be made on an ASAP situation, as the client cannot afford to have the piano down for more than a day and that will be over her Christmas "vacation" time. Wheee, are we having fun yet?<G></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS Sans Serif", "serif";'>Joe</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;'><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";'>----- Original Message ----- </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='background:#E4E4E4;'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";'> <a rel="nofollow"
ymailto="mailto:davidlovepianos@comcast.net" target="_blank" href="javascript:return" title="davidlovepianos@comcast.net">David Love</a> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";'>To: </span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";'><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:joegarrett@earthlink.net" target="_blank" href="javascript:return" title="joegarrett@earthlink.net">Joseph Garrett</a>;<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return" title="pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech</a></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";'> 12/13/2012 8:57:31 PM </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",
"sans-serif";'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";'> Re: [pianotech] GH-1s, etc.</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;'>The core would be but not necessarily the wrap.</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;'> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;'>David Love</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;'><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.davidlovepianos.com">www.davidlovepianos.com</a></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;'>415.407.8320</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;'> </span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;'><br><br>Joseph Garrett <<a rel="nofollow"
ymailto="mailto:joegarrett@earthlink.net" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">joegarrett@earthlink.net</a>> wrote:<br><br>David said:<br>"I was referring to how thin the copper needs to be. Depending on various<br>factors and targets, sometimes bichords end up pushing the copper down to<br>something much thinner than string winders are comfortable working with." <br><br>David,<br>I understand that. However, if you were scaling for 3 string wound, the<br>wire core and wrap would be even smaller than with the bichords of the same<br>mass per note. Trichords solve little, imo..<br>Joe<br><br><br>Joe Garrett, R.P.T.<br>Captain of the Tool Police<br>Squares R I</span></p></blockquote></div></td>
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