<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">Let me know how it goes for you. I made a detailed post about it a couple of days ago. <br> <br> Susan<br> </font><br> Richard W. Bushey wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:27E5C471A02C4C6EB80704D310219FCA@owner08b842208" type="cite"> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> <meta name="GENERATOR" content="MSHTML 8.00.6001.19393"> <style></style> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Susan,</font></div> <div> </div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Thanks, I'll have to try it.</font></div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div>Richard W. Bushey<br> Richard's Piano Service<br> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.RichardsPianoService.com">www.RichardsPianoService.com</a><br> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Rbushey@RichardsPianoService.com">Rbushey@RichardsPianoService.com</a><br> 573-765-9903</div> <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 0px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;" dir="ltr"> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">----- Original Message ----- </div> <div style="background: rgb(228, 228, 228) none repeat scroll 0%; font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><b>From:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true" title="skline@peak.org" href="mailto:skline@peak.org">Susan Kline</a> </div> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true" title="pianotech@ptg.org" href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a> </div> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 22, 2012 12:09 PM</div> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [pianotech] filling screw holes!</div> <div><br> </div> <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">I have used hammer shanks for oversized holes for the kind of knobs which have screws, <br> put the screws into end grain, come back two years later, and found neat 7/32" holes <br> instead of the knobs I had left there. <br> <br> Leather, use leather and white glue. If the holes are egged out, you can even fold <br> the leather over, or use layers of it. It works. <br> <br> None of the wood options (shoe pegs, toothpicks, dowels, etc.) work as well <br> (except plugs made by a plug cutter), because the screw threads eat into the grain. <br> <br> Leather leather leather and Elmer's (repeat ad infinitum till you try it and see <br> how well it works.) <br> <br> Susan Kline<br> </font><br> Richard W. Bushey wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:D2B5B545643A4150B106431B60BB7E51@owner08b842208" type="cite">Joe, <br> <br> On the finished repair pic, I know they didn't match. Those were the screws that were with it....maybe from a previous repair attempt.  I didn't have matching screws the correct size on hand.  I always try to use the existing screws when possible.  This was at a school where the piano got hard use and this was not the only mismatched hardware on the piano. <br> <br> I did use a zinc screw in the plain wood picture, but that was the first screw I found laying around. <br> <br> As far as the end grain, yes, you are right.  Short of cutting plugs with a plug making tool (which I don't have, but ought to get), this was far better, in my opinion and experience for most applications than filling the messed up, "v"ed hole with toothpicks and/or shoepeg dowels.  I've seen dowel used hundreds of times in different places to repair screw holes, and I personally have not had issues with it.....yet.   HOWEVER, you are absolutely correct, and they could eventually strip out in time if under quite a bit of stress.  I will look into finding a plug cutter at a good price, cut a bunch and keep them handy. <br> <br> Suggestions on what type wood best for wood plugs? <br> <br> Thanks! <br> <br> <br> Richard W. Bushey <br> Richard's Piano Service <br> <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.RichardsPianoService.com">www.RichardsPianoService.com</a> <br> <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Rbushey@RichardsPianoService.com">Rbushey@RichardsPianoService.com</a> <br> 573-765-9903 <br> <br> <br> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Garrett" <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:joegarrett@earthlink.net"><joegarrett@earthlink.net></a> <br> To: "pianotech" <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org"><pianotech@ptg.org></a> <br> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 1:22 AM <br> Subject: Re: [pianotech] filling screw holes! <br> <br> <br> <blockquote type="cite">"Attached are some pics of what I've been using most of the time." <br> <br> Hmmm? Zinc Plated Phillips Screws?!!!! Please? Noooo! Then, we have <br> Hammershanks to fill with? 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