<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"><meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)"><style></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1>I agree with Jon that the vertical orientation of the coils (not tight up against each other) is probably not the issue but the beckets being as they are probably is.  It doesn’t take that long to go through and tighten the beckets followed by a pitch raise and tuning so I think that’s a good plan.  I’ve seen uglier.   Might not be a bad idea to suggest once every 12 years isn’t quite often enough.  <o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p><div>David Love<o:p></o:p>www.davidlovepianos.com<o:p></o:p></div><o:p> </o:p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'>From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Dean May Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 10:26 AM To: pianotech@ptg.org Subject: Re: [pianotech] Tuning instability<o:p></o:p></div></div><o:p> </o:p>David Love: Were the notes *wildly* out after you tuned it or someone else tuned it?  Have you actually tuned it yet?<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p><o:p> </o:p>I tuned it once about 12 years ago. It was bad then but I neglected to spot this problem. I just chalked it up to being a long time since it was tuned. Husband called me out before Christmas, he wanted to fix piano up for his wife. She still plays it, but they haven't had it tuned because they were disappointed at how quickly it went out. I initially assumed loose pins because I wouldn't have expected the notes to be that wild, even after 12 years. <o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>I am using the Schaff Coil-Setter Tightener (cat #171) to push the beckets in tight. Pitch is dropping from 20-300 cents. It will still be ugly but I am confident that this plus a rigorous tuning schedule will get it stablized. It's worked for me before. The last time I did it was on a poorly restrung 7' Kawai. Owner was not happy with the tuning stability and called me out. We installed complete DampChaser w/undercover and I tightened up the beckets and piano became very stable. He has been my regular customer since. <o:p></o:p><div>Dean<o:p></o:p>Dean W May                (812) 235-5272 voice and text <o:p></o:p>PianoRebuilders.com    (888) DEAN-MAY        <o:p></o:p></div>Terre Haute IN 47802<o:p></o:p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'>From: <a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a> [<a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a>] On Behalf Of David Love Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 9:45 AM To: <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Tuning instability<o:p></o:p></div></div><o:p> </o:p>Were the notes *wildly* out after you tuned it or someone else tuned it?  Have you actually tuned it yet?<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p><div>David Love<o:p></o:p><a href="http://www.davidlovepianos.com">www.davidlovepianos.com</a><o:p></o:p></div><o:p> </o:p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'>From: <a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a> [<a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a>] On Behalf Of Dean May Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 7:52 PM To: <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a> Subject: [pianotech] Tuning instability<o:p></o:p></div></div><o:p> </o:p>Customer complained about tuning instability. Notes were wildly out, but pins were snug. I think I found the problem. <o:p></o:p>Dean<o:p></o:p>Dean W May                (812) 235-5272 voice and text <o:p></o:p>PianoRebuilders.com    (888) DEAN-MAY        <o:p></o:p>Terre Haute IN 47802<o:p></o:p>From: Dean May [<a href="mailto:deanwmay@gmail.com">mailto:deanwmay@gmail.com</a>] Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 10:47 PM To: Dean May Subject: <o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p><o:p> </o:p>No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - <a href="http://www.avg.com">www.avg.com</a> Version: 2013.0.2805 / Virus Database: 2637/5992 - Release Date: 12/28/12 Internal Virus Database is out of date.<o:p></o:p></div></body></html>