<font color='black' size='2' face='Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'> <div></div> <div style="color: black; font-family: arial,helvetica; font-size: 10pt;"><blockquote style="padding-left: 3px; border-left-color: blue; border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid;"><pre><tt>Now, I don't want to start another "do or don't" war.....however, since 99% of my customers are like the ones David is talking about - I don't see the - need - to become an RPT. Just stating - and - no further commentary is wanted. Duaine</tt></pre></blockquote></div> <div></div> <div>I guess if you're happy and satisfied doing nothing but pitch raises on old upright, then I would agree there might not be a need to become an RPT. But becoming an RPT might give you the ability to work on better and newer pianos, and actually build a clientele that will help your business. </div> <div> </div> <div>Wim</div> <div style="clear: both;"> <div> </div> </div> <div></div> <div></div> <div style="color: black; font-family: arial,helvetica; font-size: 10pt;">-----Original Message-----<br> From: Duaine Hechler <dahechler@att.net><br> To: pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org><br> Sent: Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:32 pm<br> Subject: Re: [pianotech] tuning without stripping<br> <br> <div style="margin: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" id="AOLMsgPart_0_b41747ea-ec13-432b-abd5-94959acfc946"> <pre style="font-size: 9pt;"><tt>On 01/13/2013 11:31 PM, David Nereson wrote: > > > On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 2:01 PM, John Formsma <<a href="mailto:formsma@gmail.com">formsma@gmail.com</a> <<a href="mailto:formsma@gmail.com?">mailto:formsma@gmail.com</a>>> wrote: > > Me too...mostly. Strip muting is always faster for me. I do occasionally like to tune with two mutes. But the > piano has to already be very close in tune for that to work well. > > That's right. And most people's pianos are not, because they let them go too long. I'd say a good 2/3 to 3/4 of > the pianos I tune, maybe more, need a pitch raise first, even if it's just 5 or 10 cents. But many of them are > more like 15 to 30 cents flat. And a good percentage of them need the lost motion taken out first. > > Those two things of course use up almost the whole 2 hours allotted for the appointment, which is why there's > almost never occasion to do any fine-regulating, touchweight modification, or voicing. All these high-level piano > servicing classes offered at the conventions are great if you're working mostly for concert-level artists or even > university piano professors, but "in the trenches" of real-world tuning for Mr. or Ms. average piano owner in the > suburbs, there's almost never an opportunity to use that level of knowledge. Or the owners just don't have the funds > or see the need for it at their beginner or amateur level of playing. (, all of which doesn't have anything to do > with strip mutes, of course; just doing some minor venting here....) > --David Nereson, RPT > > Now, I don't want to start another "do or don't" war.....however, since 99% of my customers are like the ones David is talking about - I don't see the - need - to become an RPT. Just stating - and - no further commentary is wanted. Duaine -- Duaine Hechler Piano, Player Piano, Pump Organ - Tuning, Servicing & Rebuilding (314) 838-5587 / <a href="mailto:dahechler@att.net">dahechler@att.net</a> / <a href="http://www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com" target="_blank">www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com</a> Home & Business user of Linux - 12 years </tt></pre> </div>  </div> </font>