<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"><meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)"><style></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Steven:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks for commenting.  This is a concert level pianist but his practice situation is such that he would ideally like the ability to equip the piano with a silent function  (late night practicing in an apartment building).   The rest of the stuff (recording, etc) is not that important.  I think he accepts that the sound will be different.  The perceptible change to the action is what I am worried about, though the action is not exactly optimized at the moment.  How big a change is it and does it impact the action when the silent function is not in use?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>David Love<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>www.davidlovepianos.com<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Steven Hopp<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 15, 2013 1:32 PM<br><b>To:</b> PianoTech<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [pianotech] Pianodisc silent systems<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>David,<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I have not installed this on a grand piano.  However I am familiar with MIDI and wonder whether there would be enough expression in the sound of a MIDI piano if your client is a very advanced pianist?  If they were informed that the sound problem from practicing at night would go away but the actual expressive sound from their playing might be lessened then I would say this product would work.  Note too they would have to have a TFT record strip as well as a mute rail installed which is included in this package and is virtually undetectable but good to let them know there might be a slight perceptible change to the downweight from the tabs that recognize the keystroke installed under each key.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>PianoDisc also sells the mute rail for grand pianos seperately.  Would they be able to use just that if the piano played very quietly?  Also note that a mute rail requires letoff to be set at 1/8" according to the instructions so there will be some regulation adjustments as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>MFSR for this system is $3443.00 without labor to install and without any regulation or pick up and delivery included.  The MFSR for the Mute rail alone is $722.00 w/o labor.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Hope that helps.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Steven Hopp RPT<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>PianoWorks Studio<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Midland, TX  79705<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>432-770-7473<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>> From: <a href="mailto:davidlovepianos@comcast.net">davidlovepianos@comcast.net</a><br>> To: <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a><br>> Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 11:02:37 -0800<br>> Subject: [pianotech] Pianodisc silent systems<br>> <br>> Can anyone who has experience comment on the upside/downside of installing<br>> these systems on a grand piano (Baldwin F)? I'm not actually going to<br>> install it, I would hire someone (it's out my purview), but a customer of<br>> mine has a noise issue in practicing late at night and is considering<br>> something like this. <br>> <br>> <a href="http://www.pianodisc.com/products/details.aspx?id=42381">http://www.pianodisc.com/products/details.aspx?id=42381</a><br>> <br>> <br>> David Love<br>> <a href="http://www.davidlovepianos.com">www.davidlovepianos.com</a><br>> <br>> <br>> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>